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cyberjuice2012 · 05-24-2006, 05:24 PM

"There's no doubt that one of the major issues of twentieth century history, surely in the US, is corporate propaganda... Its goal from the beginning, perfectly openly and consciously, was to 'control the public mind,' as they put it. The reason was that the public mind was seen as the greatest threat to corporations."

- Noam Chomsky, "Propaganda and Control of the Public Mind"

twilson · 05-25-2006, 02:42 AM

Everytime you tell yourself that there is nothing that can be done to stop the corrupt american elite then ask yourself why they are so scared of the public.

Dr.Feelgood · 05-25-2006, 04:19 AM

Great quote. Chomsky is a favorite of mine.

Verite · 05-25-2006, 11:59 AM

Good ol Noam, for a self described libertarian socialist he sure practices and benefits from a lot of capitalism.

twilson · 05-25-2006, 03:45 PM

>> he sure practices and benefits from a lot of capitalism.

Chomsky is one of the most brilliant people on the face of the earth. Anytime somebody like that engages in the things that smart people normally engage in the product is likely to be seen as valuable and thus produce good returns.

But he's not the kind of jerk that sez hey I'm making money so capitalism must be great. Nope he bites the capitalist hand everyday. As a matter of fact Chomsky often tells his audience that they are the problem.

So his behavior is consistant with his belief system. And there is a large demand in our capitalist system for somebody that will tell the truth about it (he's booked up for about 2 years in the future)

Dr.Feelgood · 05-25-2006, 07:27 PM

Since when has Chomsky said that selling books should not be allowed? lol Sometimes, Verite, you're too much.

The way I understand it, is that Chomsky advocates a change in our capitalist society. He advocates a taking-away of the power and influence of modern corporations, because they are destructive and corrupt. He's not a Marxist.

twilson · 05-26-2006, 02:43 PM

According to what i read Chomsky is worth about 2 million.

Wow a genius at the age of 70+ years (who has written dozens of books and given thousands of lectures) managed to accumulate 2 million.

Yeah it sounds like Chomsky is really a big phony out to line his pockets. (sarcasm alert)

Verite · 05-27-2006, 10:10 AM

Cool, then why isnt he known for his philanthropy?

What do you normally call someone that attacks a system that they clearly use to their financial advantage and well being?

And can anyone point out any socialist movement in the last 200 years that didnt fall apart from corruption?

The only thing I agree on is the current system needs to change. If Noam is for ending all corporate lobbying and no more political fund raising then Im all for that. Let each side take 25 million out from taxes and thats all they get for advertising their campaigns.. end of story. Eliminate the lobby grift and then politicians might actually be able to stick to some of their goals of making the country better. Chances of that happening are better once hell freezes over.

twilson · 05-27-2006, 03:07 PM

>> Cool, then why isnt he known for his philanthropy?

Bwahahahahahaha

A guy worth 2 million is suppose to have some reputation as a big philanthropist.

Cripes i know civil servants that are worth more than that these days

twilson · 05-27-2006, 03:40 PM

>> And can anyone point out any socialist movement in the last 200 years that didnt fall apart from corruption?

Ah you have a bunch of (relatively) socialist countrys in western europe that are doing much better than the US. Now why would i say that ? Because if your a kid there is no doubt they are better.

"Poor Kids In A Rich Country" written by a couple of Harvard profs shows that child poverty in some european socialist countrys is 10 times less than in the US.

And Chavez has more than twice the approval rate of shrub.

05-24-2006, 05:24 PM	#1
cyberjuice2012 Member Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: in darkest Canada Posts: 33	"Propaganda and Control of the Public Mind" "There's no doubt that one of the major issues of twentieth century history, surely in the US, is corporate propaganda... Its goal from the beginning, perfectly openly and consciously, was to 'control the public mind,' as they put it. The reason was that the public mind was seen as the greatest threat to corporations." - Noam Chomsky, "Propaganda and Control of the Public Mind" __________________ Every one of us possesses the faculty, the interior sense, that is known by the name of intuition, but how rare are those who know how to develop it!
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05-25-2006, 02:42 AM	#2
twilson Banned Join Date: Feb 2006 Posts: 77	Everytime you tell yourself that there is nothing that can be done to stop the corrupt american elite then ask yourself why they are so scared of the public.
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05-25-2006, 04:19 AM	#3
Dr.Feelgood Registered User Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Bratislava, Slovakia Posts: 388	Great quote. Chomsky is a favorite of mine.
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05-25-2006, 11:59 AM	#4
Verite My little pony.. my little pony Join Date: Jul 2005 Posts: 4,750	Good ol Noam, for a self described libertarian socialist he sure practices and benefits from a lot of capitalism. __________________ Strains by Verite .......................... Holy Grail Intro, Seeds at Seebay, Private Breeders Orange Diesel Intro, Seeds now at Seedbay
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05-25-2006, 03:45 PM	#5
twilson Banned Join Date: Feb 2006 Posts: 77	>> he sure practices and benefits from a lot of capitalism. Chomsky is one of the most brilliant people on the face of the earth. Anytime somebody like that engages in the things that smart people normally engage in the product is likely to be seen as valuable and thus produce good returns. But he's not the kind of jerk that sez hey I'm making money so capitalism must be great. Nope he bites the capitalist hand everyday. As a matter of fact Chomsky often tells his audience that they are the problem. So his behavior is consistant with his belief system. And there is a large demand in our capitalist system for somebody that will tell the truth about it (he's booked up for about 2 years in the future)
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05-25-2006, 07:27 PM	#6
Dr.Feelgood Registered User Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Bratislava, Slovakia Posts: 388	Since when has Chomsky said that selling books should not be allowed? lol Sometimes, Verite, you're too much. The way I understand it, is that Chomsky advocates a change in our capitalist society. He advocates a taking-away of the power and influence of modern corporations, because they are destructive and corrupt. He's not a Marxist.
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05-26-2006, 02:43 PM	#7
twilson Banned Join Date: Feb 2006 Posts: 77	According to what i read Chomsky is worth about 2 million. Wow a genius at the age of 70+ years (who has written dozens of books and given thousands of lectures) managed to accumulate 2 million. Yeah it sounds like Chomsky is really a big phony out to line his pockets. (sarcasm alert)
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05-27-2006, 10:10 AM	#8
Verite My little pony.. my little pony Join Date: Jul 2005 Posts: 4,750	Cool, then why isnt he known for his philanthropy? What do you normally call someone that attacks a system that they clearly use to their financial advantage and well being? And can anyone point out any socialist movement in the last 200 years that didnt fall apart from corruption? The only thing I agree on is the current system needs to change. If Noam is for ending all corporate lobbying and no more political fund raising then Im all for that. Let each side take 25 million out from taxes and thats all they get for advertising their campaigns.. end of story. Eliminate the lobby grift and then politicians might actually be able to stick to some of their goals of making the country better. Chances of that happening are better once hell freezes over. __________________ Strains by Verite .......................... Holy Grail Intro, Seeds at Seebay, Private Breeders Orange Diesel Intro, Seeds now at Seedbay
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05-27-2006, 03:07 PM	#9
twilson Banned Join Date: Feb 2006 Posts: 77	>> Cool, then why isnt he known for his philanthropy? Bwahahahahahaha A guy worth 2 million is suppose to have some reputation as a big philanthropist. Cripes i know civil servants that are worth more than that these days
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05-27-2006, 03:40 PM	#10
twilson Banned Join Date: Feb 2006 Posts: 77	>> And can anyone point out any socialist movement in the last 200 years that didnt fall apart from corruption? Ah you have a bunch of (relatively) socialist countrys in western europe that are doing much better than the US. Now why would i say that ? Because if your a kid there is no doubt they are better. "Poor Kids In A Rich Country" written by a couple of Harvard profs shows that child poverty in some european socialist countrys is 10 times less than in the US. And Chavez has more than twice the approval rate of shrub.
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