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Old 06-10-2014, 05:14 PM #1
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Vote NO to legalize cannabis....Or else

I know your thinkin' Vote NO on legalizing cannabis WTF???
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Read carefully and you may see things just a little differently!

If cannabis is legal you will not be able to provide yourself with medicine.

Legalization where people still cant grow on their own & can still go to jail. that means fake/pseudo 'legaliztion'.

7 good reasons below to get you to think about voting NO before it is too late!
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Legalization in Canada, how are things there now?

Why was cannabis made illegal?

Monsanto Poised To Take Over Commercial Cannabis Growing In All Legal States!

Building the Walmart of Weed. featuring GrowOp Tech.

Hiring commercial growers at a starting annual salary of $35,000.

Trailer full of weed stolen by cannabis guru!

The same people that sent you to prison for pot, will now sell pot to you!

You will be force to pay top dollar for whatever the state approved grower wants to grow and all the competition is gone so he will not have to provide a quality product if he so chooses.

It has already started!!

Seed Vault Takeover

In Washington, Nevada,Massachusetts, and Colorado and many others!

https://www.420magazine.com/forums/ca...getinfo&e=1158

What about in Canada?

We are next!
Canada - Government Threatens To Share Medicinal Marijuana Patient Information
Health Canada has warned it will share with law enforcement the private information of citizens in lawful possession of medicinal marijuana unless they comply with a new order within six weeks’ time. Today (March 14), the federal government posted a notice online stating that medicinal-marijuana licence holders are required to destroy all marijuana they have and provide written notice stating that they “no longer possess marijuana (dried marijuana, plants or seeds) obtained under the old program”.

“If participants do not comply with the requirement to notify Health Canada, the Department will notify law enforcement,” the release states. License holders have until April 30, 2014, to meet the terms of the order. Another Health Canada website provides vague details on the consequences of not complying with the new directive. "The Department will take compliance and enforcement action," it states. "This includes informing law enforcement of your failure to notify Health Canada as required under section 259.3 of the MMPR. In addition, the Department will continue to cooperate with police, and provide information needed to protect public safety, as appropriate." A “notification form” is available for download on the Health Canada website. There are more than 16,500 British Columbians licensed to possess medicinal marijuana. When the Conservatives’ new Marihuana for Medical Purposes Regulation takes effect on April 1, license holders will only be allowed to purchase dried cannabis via mail order.

The Health Canada directive issued today—on a Friday afternoon when government officials know media outlets are least likely to report it—contradicts information included in a September 2013 briefing note prepared for B.C. Attorney General and Minister of Justice Suzanne Anton. “Health Canada, citing privacy concerns, does not intend to disclose the addresses of former licensed grow operations once they are no longer permitted to legally grow marijuana,” that memo states. It’s unclear what has changed that has led Health Canada to believe it can turn over the information of citizens licensed to possess medicinal marijuana without violating individuals’ privacy.

For months, Health Canada has refused the Georgia Straight’s repeated requests for an interview on the topic of the new rules governing medicinal marijuana. A message left today requesting clarification on the March 14 notice was not returned. In a media release, Sensible B.C. campaign director Dana Larsen called for demonstrations against the Health Canada order. “Patients across Canada registered with Health Canada in good faith, to protect themselves against arrest for cultivating their own medicine,” Larsen said in the release. “Now they are being threatened with police action if they don’t destroy their perfectly good medication.”

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Old 06-10-2014, 05:29 PM #2
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Correct. The mentality seems to be if we can't beat them, absorb them.
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Old 06-10-2014, 05:34 PM #3
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Don't be Absorbed!!!!

No one here in this post believes anything, unless you have 3 witnesses and 2 or more universities, willing to collaborate your story.... ya know!

Could this happen in the future of YOUR STATE?

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MSNBC NEWS REPORTS Michigan has no constitution ?

But you have to be the judge !
Ask yourself could this happen here?

When you think your laws are safe cast in concrete, next thing you know here comes the jackhammer.

Please view the video, for the sake of all rights, for all people!
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Old 06-10-2014, 06:09 PM #4
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Why did you post this in every single state forum?

Everyone, please vote YES on any legalization amendment you can. As it stands right now, people are going to jail for simple possession. Let's go ahead and fix that real quick... THEN we can worry about whatever it is that people are worrying about OTHER than innocent people going to jail for dried flowers.
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Vote YES, progress comes in steps, don't be greedy. Perfect legalization may not be a single step. Hush is dead on, once herb is legal to carry and smoke, the fight to legalize home growing will be much more easy.
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Im not down with full boat legalization either. I am seeing even with medical, the small time, average grower is being pushed out, and priced out thru exorbitant fees for licensing.
Currently we are seeing private caregivers forced out of the game to make way for giant weed farms. I believe in weed freedom and no one should ever go to jail for weed, but this is quickly becoming a rich mans game, Dr's, Lawyers, Ex-Cops, Ex Politicians, these are the new face of weed if things continue the way they are.

All of the people that have made weed what it is today, the growers working tirelessly underground to fuel the movement, well the states will take a huge shit right on your heads and not think twice. And home growing will still be illegal if you cant afford to pay them thousands of dollars for taxes and fees, so what kind of progress is that. Just so you can go down to 7-11 and buy a bag, whoopty freakin doo, I dont buy weed, to me my right to grow and provide for others is much more important than any of that.

P.S your threads would carry more weight if you dont post 10,000 of them, that will just get you banned for spamming.
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^ All those things are valid points, but this quote stands out to me:

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And home growing will still be illegal if you cant afford to pay them thousands of dollars for taxes and fees, so what kind of progress is that.
Home growing is illegal right now for the majority of people in the U.S. and beyond, so it seems to me you are focusing on the wrong part of the story? People would immediately stop being sent to jail for possession if things are legalized. Immediately. Why isn't that more important than growers' profits? Let's legalize first, end the incarceration, and THEN work on maximizing profit.

Also, what you describe are the same kind of hoops anyone has to jump through to start up a business of any kind in this country. That's how it works in a capitalist society. You pay taxes and fees and more taxes.
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DO be absorbed.

The medical marijuana initiatives were just plain bad medicine. With it legalized you may have to look for a new dispensary again but the techniques are all the same. The only differences are you'll pay more and you'll get a higher quality product in terms of QA and testing.

Right now the medical market's all bs and hype, not scientific minds working on experimental treatments. It's turning in to businessmen pushing bs and hype as much as possible and hiring scientists only when absolutely required. Seems about a wash to me if you just don't care whether your weed is moldy (gotten moldy weed from 3 local dispensaries so far - that won't be flyin).
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You are asking people to let the government decide From who they get their medicine from?? REALLY???
So what you are saying is give up your right to grow your own medicine and give complete control to the government.

Tell me please how can any good come of this????

Decriminalization should be the goal!!!
The answer is definitely not to let the government have complete control!

Did you read the links from the people experiencing this first hand?
Do you really feel you are more informed then them?


Please fine Sir.....Do your research before you decide.

Just look at the real world evidence!!!!
Is this what you stand for??
Really ??
Really??

Do you really feel the government needs more power over our medicine?
And Why??

You can keep people out of jail for cannabis many many other(better) ways!

Rethink this and do the research ...Please for yourself and the rest of us!!

I posted in all the state forums so that all states will hear the news!
Freedom of information........An informed public will make the appropriate decisions!

Good luck with you government supplied GACK!!
That you just paid $600 for and it may or may not even be effective for you!

Me I choose to grow my own so I can customize my medicine to suite my ailments!

Oh and by the way...People will still go to jail if they don't obtain their medicine from the government.

How will this solve any problems we face currently?

Do your research....... Please for the good of all!!!

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^ All those things are valid points, but this quote stands out to me:



Home growing is illegal right now for the majority of people in the U.S. and beyond, so it seems to me you are focusing on the wrong part of the story? People would immediately stop being sent to jail for possession if things are legalized. Immediately. Why isn't that more important than growers' profits? Let's legalize first, end the incarceration, and THEN work on maximizing profit.

Also, what you describe are the same kind of hoops anyone has to jump through to start up a business of any kind in this country. That's how it works in a capitalist society. You pay taxes and fees and more taxes.

Well Hush if you want to get technical many people do not necessarily go to jail for growing weed, in many states they just get probation. So the way you put it nothing is gained what so ever. Also in many states herb has been decriminalized so there is nothing more than a civil infraction issued when found in pocession, that civil infraction is much less than you would even pay in taxes buying your weed legally, then again, nothing gained.

Also, you can start up many kinds of businesses without having to pay the state thousands, perhaps even a million dollars or more to do so in licensing fees. But in the weed industry it is not uncommon for the states to ask for hundreds and thousands of dollars in licensing fees just for the right to open a business, that does not include the money needed to actually open the business, and then many of them are forced to work as non profit.

Also, who says people will stop being sent to jail, if you do not play by the system I am sure they will still punish you. Get caught growing without paying the states what they want and Im sure they will put you thru the wringer. They dont need you, when they already have millionaire business men willing to pay them what ever they want.

At the end of it all not much has been gained overall, except now you can go to the weed store and buy some beasters.
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