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Old 05-16-2014, 07:28 AM #1
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Dud Identification Collective Knowledge.

As an effort to stop the spreading of Ganaj Herpes, come identify and share pic of your duds here.


First help me with this one here. Im calling DUUUUUD! What about you?


This is GG#4

My GG#4 that I got from the cup. Word on the street is Im not the only one here.

Personally I think duds come from bms, but lets not get to worked up about that all yet, lets identify duds first.
Cmon Buds, show us your DUDs!
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Shorter than normal internodal spacing and smaller leaves
woodier stems
brittle stems

Those were terms I think Storm Shadow used that helped me identify my duds.
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im having trouble understanding from your pic what the problem is. i am running gg4 and mine does look healthier but imnot sure what is so crazy wrong with that one.
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The first two pics show the smaller internodal space and smaller leafs. This is the part of the plant that is the "dud"

Ill cut it off and take a pic of it by itself so you can clearly see.


The last two pics show much healthier growth, that is non "dud" but very well may have "dud" in its genes.
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im having trouble understanding from your pic what the problem is. i am running gg4 and mine does look healthier but imnot sure what is so crazy wrong with that one.
your cut from the cup? I believe i am a member of D.I.C.K. Pics to come....fellow DICKS...i will have DICK pics this evening

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Heres a better example of the dud branch



Notice the brittle woody stem


Here is some seemingly healthy normal growth on the same branch



The dud'd growth, notice the smaller leaves, they dont look as healthy

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short internodal spacing is good in plants. I would not use that as an indication of something bad. Example plants that have huge colas have short internode's with increased yields.
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Hey PF thanks for stopping by, your right thats not the best description.

The internodal spacing on the dud'd area is shorter than the rest of the plant, of course it will help to have prior knowledge of the strain.






See the right side of the branch with its two "longer" healthier looking growths. That is what the internodal spacing on rest of my gg4 looks like

Look at the left side of the branch.

Does that look like gg4 to you?



Healthy gg4 below. I treated these plants and gave them a heat treatment, after the heat treatment is when the "dudding" appeared. Only on some of the branches on some of the plants.
I was about to take a bunch of clones and monocrop the next round, but I think I will see how this one plays first.

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As an effort to stop the spreading of Ganaj Herpes, come identify and share pic of your duds here.


First help me with this one here. Im calling DUUUUUD! What about you?

View Image View Image
This is GG#4
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My GG#4 that I got from the cup. Word on the street is Im not the only one here.

Personally I think duds come from bms, but lets not get to worked up about that all yet, lets identify duds first.
Cmon Buds, show us your DUDs!
What or who is bms?
Is the problem with phenotypic or genotypic expression?
If just phenotypic expression then you can try and clean up the clone by only taking the most healthy fresh vigorus material, rooting it, growing it big, take vigorus materials, grow it big, and repeat the process a few times.
This will often regenerate old weak clones, and restore their vigor and health, like with confused clones repeatedly revegged from flowering plants, or clones left in a really small pot for a year or more, that has all but stopped growing. They can be saved.
Genotypic duds can be tossed unless they have somthing that is wanted and hard to find in other varieties, then capture and use the traits and toss the dud.
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