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Old 04-24-2014, 07:53 PM #1
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Radiation mutation breeding . . .

Get the distinct impression that GM cannabis might not go down too well . .

How do you feel about mutation breeding with radiation ?

Acceptable or a dead end ?

It has a long and successful history with a number of common food crops , and it only increases the incidence of a natural process that has driven evolution.

Downside is you still need to grow out thousands to find a useful non lethal sport , and unlike GM its more or less random.

Deleting or recombining the existing DNA should have less opposition than transgenics , and could produce some interesting variants.


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Ionizing radiation includes ultra-violet (UV) light, X-ray, Gamma rays, and neutrons. These high-energy forms of radiation cause double-strand breaks of the DNA double helix. Once pieces of the DNA are broken, cellular repair mechanisms stitch the pieces back together. These DNA repair systems can only handle low rates of radiation, however, and increases in the rate of exposure to ionizing radiation causes permanent mutations to occur and accumulate in an organism’s genome. Radiation causes deletions of nucleotides from the DNA sequence. These deletions can cause reading-frame shifts, inactive protein products, or faulty transcripts. This typically results in null mutations, which are those in which a particular gene is inactivated.
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i don't know shit and that being said, this sounds interesting in theory. for the hippie-type it just sounds too evil, well expect maybe if you take the seeds/clones(seeds only?) to space where they can get a dose of organic primordial radiation.
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Old 04-24-2014, 08:26 PM #3
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Might sound evil , but you have almost certainly eaten some.

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Though poorly known, radiation breeding has produced thousands of useful mutants and a sizable fraction of the world’s crops, Dr. Lagoda said, including varieties of rice, wheat, barley, pears, peas, cotton, peppermint, sunflowers, peanuts, grapefruit, sesame, bananas, cassava and sorghum. The mutant wheat is used for bread and pasta and the mutant barley for beer and fine whiskey.

The mutations can improve yield, quality, taste, size and resistance to disease and can help plants adapt to diverse climates and conditions.
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The Cosmic Ray Factor of a Solar Magnetic Shutdown

https://beforeitsnews.com/alternative...n-2760348.html

didn't this used to be called EVOLUTION?

solar and earth magnetic shutdown increases cosmic rays exposure responsible for dna mutation and recombination.
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Well done !

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Info I posted that may or may not be useful to your thread. Nothing to do with radiation.

https://www.icmag.com/ic/showthread.php?t=204436
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Useful and relevant , thanks for posting the link.
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You mean I can have cannabis plants look like cabbages instead ...? lol
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Should be possible to find every previously documented genetic variation and some new ones , but the numbers needed to find them could be daunting from seed.

Remember seeing work done on hemp in the 30,s but cant find it right now.

Blackberry looks a good contender to have been a sport , possibly some others like the ducksfoot leaf trait ?
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Blackberry looks a good contender to have been a sport , possibly some others like the ducksfoot leaf trait ?
To go with your question...

"somatic mutation: It may be maintained by vegetative propagation but not by sexual reproduction"- People can make a new cultivar from a mutated sport...

What do you think about working with a mutant sport from a plant for breeding?

Say you take a Red Fuji mutant sport cutting/clone and use it for breeding... Would that create different offspring than using the unmutated Fuji apple cutting? These would be cuttings from the same tree... But 1 is mutated and the other is not... What are your thoughts?
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