[rr14]

I've had an og kush and a haze in flower for 7 weeks. Should I drop all nutes now and go with water? Are there any addatives that I should be tossing in with the water to help the plants turn out better?

This is a hydro setup that has had c02 to it for the majority of the time so far. I'll try to post some pics.

[Vern Equinox]

If you're going to water cure, keep those puppies nuted to the max right up to the chop! I've been reading a lot on water curing lately, and it makes sense in the fact that in a 7-8 week flowering strain, if you flush for the last two weeks you're starving the girls for 25% of their bloom time, all when they're putting on final weight.

Water curing does alter the taste (so I've read) and appearance (gets darker), but supposedly the buzz is enhanced and the smoke is much smoother...we'll see. I'm growing out C99, and I'm not going to flush at all; this head stash is getting water cured this round.

[Blowmonkey]

Originally Posted by Vern Equinox

but supposedly the buzz is enhanced and the smoke is much smoother..

Smoother, no, in my opinion the buds have become harsher. Others might disagree.

Enhanced high? Might be, might be not. Essentially you are burning less plant material and thus more effectively vaporizing the THC, so that could result in a little increase in high. But, what happens during the water cure, is that you remove a lot of excess plant material, along with certain terpenoids and flavonoids. These terpenoids and flavonoids also add to the high, synergizing with the cannabinoids. So in that aspect, the high could be altered in a detrimental way.

[JWP]

These terpenoids and flavonoids also add to the high, synergizing with the cannabinoids.

Synergizing with my ass maybe. What on earth led you to that conclusion?

What about the cytotoxicity of terpenoids and flavonoids?

Whats cytotoxicity?

Cytotoxicity is the quality of being toxic to cells.

Terpenoids and flavonoids and are not considered psychoactive, and in no way contribute to the high created by the cannabinoids.

Dude you have been running your mouth not only in this thread but also the water cure thread. Do you think before you speak? Or do you just open your mouth & let the shit flow out?

[Blowmonkey]

At first I was skeptical as well, but Sam the Skunksman convinced me otherwise. The guy has done much experimenting with it, try PM'ing him if you don't take what I say seriously.

Meanwhile, I'll post some abstracts on it:

MEDICAL CANNABIS TODAY
Drug Cannabis available to the medical user can be assigned to one of two categories. Marijuana (domestically produced and imported cannabis flowers) is nearly always grown from high-THC varieties (up to 20 to 25 percent dry weight in trimmed female flowers) containing very little CBD. Hashish or charas (compressed cannabis resin) is made from varieties that are predominantly THC (up to 10 percent), but they often contain up to 5 percent CBD. Clean high-THC profiles result from marijuana growers mak-ing seed selections from individual favorable plants with high THC levels. Hashish is produced by bulk processing large numbers of plants, and, there-fore, growers are unable to make seed selections from individual particu-larly potent plants so the CBD level tends to remain at more natural limits. Hashish cultivars are bred for resin quantity rather than potency, so the farmer selects plants and saves seeds by observing which ones produce the most resin, rather than if it contains THC or CBD. Afghan populations con-tain approximately 25 percent plants that are rich in CBD with little THC, 50 percent that contain both CBD and THC, and 25 percent that contain lit-tle CBD and are rich in THC. CBD is suspected of having effects on the pri-mary psychoactive compound THC and in a medical setting it may also have useful modulating effects on THC or valuable effects of its own.

How-ever, analytical surveys of 80 Cannabis varieties in the Netherlands D.W. Pate, personal communication, 1999) and 47 samples in California 4 show that nearly every sample contained predominantly THC usually with less than 5 percent of the other combined cannabinoids. Higher levels of THC and other medically effective cannabinoids and terpenoids are healthier for patients using smoked cannabis as they can smoke less to achieve the same dosage and effect.

https://haworthpressinc.com/store/SampleText/4513.pdf

While much of the product development is focusing on specific cannabinoids, many herbalists support anecdotal reports from patients, which contend that the natural whole plant works better than a single agent. Although plants may contain hundreds of compounds, herbalists believe that the ‘…polypharmaceutical herbs provide two advantages over single-ingredient synthetic drugs: (1) therapeutic effects of the primary active ingredients in herbs may be synergised by other compounds, and (2) side effects of the primary active ingredients may be mitigated by other compounds’ (McPartland and Russo, 2001, p.104). Cannabis contains more than 400 compounds. There is good evidence to show that secondary compounds in Cannabis may enhance the beneficial effects of THC, while other cannabinoids and non-cannabinoid compounds may reduce the side effects of THC. Terpenoids and flavonoids found in Cannabis have been shown to exert beneficial effects as well as THC (McPartland and Russo, 2001).

https://www.pavpub.com/pavpub/useredi...s/K511202c.pdf

https://www.omma1998.org/Psychopharma...McPartland.pdf
https://www.omma1998.org/McPartland-R...(3-4)-2001.pdf
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/q..._uids=15234473
https://www.maps.org/news-letters/v09n3/09320gie.html

[rr14]

so should I switch them to water or some other mix of nutes for the last week and a half or so?

[eucerinop]

either low ppms of 400 with little N seem to be preferred 2 weeks before; i am at teh same point as you though...