another example of why it's risky to go to hydro stores in non-med/legal states - Page 3 - Security & Legal Issues - International Cannagraphic Magazine Forums

RetroGrow · 03-27-2014, 04:01 AM

"Smart cops"=oxymoron.
As Alex Jones points out on "infowars", police work is one of the career choices that attracts psychopaths. They are a fraternity of psychopaths, playing Rambo, while they bully and harass the helpless, homeless, and the least dangerous. They are gutless thugs who shoot first and think later.
There is no more shooting to wound/stop a person. It's all out overkill, emptying their automatics to leave no witnesses/injured people to sue them, like the homeless guy they murdered in New Mexico.

hush · 03-27-2014, 04:57 AM

Green Merchant all over again.

Nadicus_Maximus · 03-27-2014, 11:00 AM

I go to the hydro store but always park away from it and I use cash every time.

dddaver · 03-27-2014, 01:56 PM

Ex-CIA? I'm not a lawyer, but that puts a whole new wrinkle about this story and motives really become muddled. I'm pretty sure at one point as federal government employees the Hartes were required to sign non-disclosure agreements as well as agree never to sue the government so their only legal recourse was to go after the local yokels through the open records laws.

They may have even been caught up in a stupid jurisdictional turf war, about who can do what, between the feds, staties, and county mounties too. Very complicated.

Bottom line, ALL pigs suck!

GonBush · 03-27-2014, 09:44 PM

Personally I wouldn't trust some hydro shop owners not to be police informers.

OldLuck · 03-27-2014, 10:28 PM

Happens here all the time.

mojave green · 03-27-2014, 10:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jhhnn

Therefore, no reasonable suspicion can be assigned to anybody visiting one, certainly not to the point of digging in their trash on that basis alone.

cops digging in your trash. happens more than you know. once your trash hits the streets, u give up any rights associated with it. shoot, a REAL skinny dude riding a bike makes regular stops in my dumpster. i have also seen various other strangers rummaging through. because it is streetside, there are no privacy rights associated with it. i don't mind. no grow stuff goes there and ima fan of recycling. i just let the hobos do it for me, lol.

dontstepongrass · 03-27-2014, 11:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mojave green

once your trash hits the streets, u give up any rights associated with it.

correct.

Space Toker · 03-28-2014, 02:20 AM

I pay cash when visiting too, but the cop peering into the shop while I was in it as detailed on my thread, may suspect me or someone else for growing pot by just being in the store? Believe me, I have seen people in another store that almost certainly were not growing anything illegal, as they were yuppies who barely knew anything about horticulture. So you buy worm castings and you are assumed a pot grower? Sadly, I know this so-called justice system doesn't even know what justice means.

MrGoodBudz · 03-28-2014, 04:39 AM

If I lived in a non legal/medical state I would purchase everything online using a prepaid Visa card and request discreet packaging from the vendors. I'm in a legal state with grow stores all over but still buy most everything online. I get it cheaper than the grow store and don't have to leave my house. Gas is expensive. I get most things I order in 2-3 days. Order in advance and buy bulk. Always good to go!

03-27-2014, 04:01 AM	#21
RetroGrow Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2008 Posts: 7,613	"Smart cops"=oxymoron. As Alex Jones points out on "infowars", police work is one of the career choices that attracts psychopaths. They are a fraternity of psychopaths, playing Rambo, while they bully and harass the helpless, homeless, and the least dangerous. They are gutless thugs who shoot first and think later. There is no more shooting to wound/stop a person. It's all out overkill, emptying their automatics to leave no witnesses/injured people to sue them, like the homeless guy they murdered in New Mexico.
	Quote 1 members found this post helpful.

03-27-2014, 04:57 AM	#22
hush Señor Member Join Date: Jan 2011 Posts: 3,419	Green Merchant all over again. __________________ My hidey hole... where I hide out My ongoing QWISO journal
	Quote

03-27-2014, 01:56 PM	#24
dddaver Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: uh...yeah Posts: 2,345	Ex-CIA? I'm not a lawyer, but that puts a whole new wrinkle about this story and motives really become muddled. I'm pretty sure at one point as federal government employees the Hartes were required to sign non-disclosure agreements as well as agree never to sue the government so their only legal recourse was to go after the local yokels through the open records laws. They may have even been caught up in a stupid jurisdictional turf war, about who can do what, between the feds, staties, and county mounties too. Very complicated. Bottom line, ALL pigs suck! __________________ my gggeneration DAV - I can't decide which I like better: either, arguing on the internet is like winning in the Special Olympics, you might win but you're still retarded; or never argue with an idiot, they will drag you down to their level, and beat you with experience; or you can't fix stupid, so why argue with it? They all are funny, and all are true too. "Well, da Nile ain't just some big river in Egypt neither." "No reason to get excited," the thief, he kindly spoke, "There are many here among us who feel that life is but a joke. But you and I, we've been through that, and this is not our fate, So let us not talk falsely now, the hour is getting late. -Bob Dylan: All Along the Watchtower Rights aren’t rights if someone can take them away. -George Carlin "The fool thinks himself to be wise, but the wise Man knows himself to be a fool" -William Shakespeare Long signatures suck. -dddaver
	Quote

03-28-2014, 02:20 AM	#29
Space Toker Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Northeast of Nowhere Posts: 1,995	I pay cash when visiting too, but the cop peering into the shop while I was in it as detailed on my thread, may suspect me or someone else for growing pot by just being in the store? Believe me, I have seen people in another store that almost certainly were not growing anything illegal, as they were yuppies who barely knew anything about horticulture. So you buy worm castings and you are assumed a pot grower? Sadly, I know this so-called justice system doesn't even know what justice means. __________________ Cannabis is about peace and love and freedom, not blind obedience and repressive control. PEACE
	Quote

03-28-2014, 04:39 AM	#30
MrGoodBudz Member Join Date: Oct 2013 Location: 303 Posts: 629	If I lived in a non legal/medical state I would purchase everything online using a prepaid Visa card and request discreet packaging from the vendors. I'm in a legal state with grow stores all over but still buy most everything online. I get it cheaper than the grow store and don't have to leave my house. Gas is expensive. I get most things I order in 2-3 days. Order in advance and buy bulk. Always good to go! __________________ -MGB
	Quote

03-27-2014, 11:00 AM	#23
Nadicus_Maximus Member Join Date: Jan 2011 Posts: 188	I go to the hydro store but always park away from it and I use cash every time.
	Quote

03-27-2014, 09:44 PM	#25
GonBush Banned Join Date: Mar 2014 Posts: 105	Personally I wouldn't trust some hydro shop owners not to be police informers.
	Quote

03-27-2014, 10:28 PM	#26
OldLuck Member Join Date: Feb 2012 Posts: 308	Happens here all the time.
	Quote