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richyrich · 03-23-2014, 04:54 AM

Take a look at the following 10 pictures and figure out if this is what you think you have.

richyrich · 03-23-2014, 05:04 AM

If you think you got a match with one of the previous 10 pictures, then you most likely have been slimed. You need to go directly to the Slime Haters Club.

Jump directly to post # 1230 for the consolidation. Everything you need to know about the slime is there. Click the link.
https://www.icmag.com/ic/showthread.php?t=55259&page=82

We have the pictures, the testimonials, and the proof that the slime can be beat and it does have a scientific name.

If you don't have a match, then continue on down to the next set of pictures.

richyrich · 03-23-2014, 05:18 AM

Take a look at the following pictures and see if you have a match.

If you found a match in the last set of pictures, you most likely have root rot also known as pythium. This thread is going to be mainly dedicated to root rot and all root problems not slimy. Slimers, you go to the Slime Haters Club.

If you are not sure or don't have a match to any picture, stay in this thread. We will try to get it figured out.

You will help yourself the most by giving us your story, details, and PICTURES so we can best help you. Descriptions from person to person are subjective and will vary wildly. We will be at a handicap without pictures. Use that camera in your pocket that's in your cell phone.

richyrich · 03-23-2014, 05:24 AM

(moved over from the slime club)

Quote:
Originally Posted by doneit

I have a brutal brown fungi that is now airborne.. no matter what i have tried it wins..
do you have a recommendation for this?

I tried some teas in the past with no luck.
any help would be appreciated

HUGE · 03-23-2014, 05:26 AM

Best way to not get root rot or slime is to switch to dtw coco.

richyrich · 03-23-2014, 05:26 AM

(moved over from the slime club)

Quote:
Originally Posted by doneit

I have a brutal brown fungi that is now airborne.. no matter what i have tried it wins..
do you have a recommendation for this?

I tried some teas in the past with no luck.
any help would be appreciated
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I need to know what you have tried so I can help you. Make a list or tell your story.

richyrich · 03-23-2014, 05:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HUGE

Best way to not get root rot or slime is to switch to dtw coco.

You are correct, but some of us can't give up the hydro for some reason. I went to coco dtw back in 2008 when dealing with the slime. I beat the slime though and went back to hydro.

In the slime club thread my instructions are to go to soil or coco dtw if they can't shake the slime. Coco is pretty awesome, forgiving, and easy to grow with. Yet, some of us rather go thru torture just to grow hydro...

richyrich · 03-23-2014, 05:39 AM

(moved over from the slime club)

Quote:
Originally Posted by doneit

This started about 3yrs ago when i received some bubba cuts that were rooted but dying, the roots were brown, should have tossed them but i had no idea what was about to befall us.
We run a top feed perlite system that feeds 4 times a day, 100 gallon rez per 2k SOG.

I have 4 owned spots that had to be abandoned because of this disease. half million in properties.

I have tried just about everything, list off the top of my head...
mycostop
actinovate
bleach
pool shock
35% peroxide
dutch master zone
immunux
alliet wg
excel lg
ro water from outside source
tap water from outside source
great white
some canadian express root enhancer?
SMS
Physan
UV sterilization

Im sure i am forgetting some other products.

I have run 100's of experiments from seed/clone, soil flood and drain etc..

They only thing that kind of worked was zone, however once the flant got to 20 days flower and new root development slowed, the fungi won!

Pool shock helped, but the amount need everyday to keep the ppm to 1.5 caused salt toxicity by early flower and killed them anyways.

I Sent to sample out.. one to penn state, and one to wisonsin..
results came back that we have a pythium/rhizotona problem.. lol
No details to exactly what the disease is.

Now.. if i take cuts and give them a physan bath.. i can take them to any other place and they will grow disease free.
This tells me that it is not systemic to the plant.
I now know it is not in the local water or mediums, if i bring in new cuts or seedlings they acquire the disease over night, not using any materials from my spot.
So what ever we have is in spore form and grows EXTREMELY fast.

This problem has retired many people in my area, it spread quick, not everyone could afford to move to a new location.

Any help will be very welcome and appreciated!

Snype · 03-23-2014, 05:40 AM

Sometimes some Cyanobacteria is resistant to Chlorine. I had this type for years and the only thing that worked for me was to sterilize all my equipment with Erythromycin. It worked wonders for me. Physan20 didn't do anything at all for me for the specific Cyanobacteria that I had. I tried everything. Almost gave up growing because of all the problems and all the money that I lost at the time. I also have a thread on the topic in my signature for people who can't kill it with Physan 20. I like your idea on your tea. My problem is that I grow in sterile systems and nothing living in RDWC systems. So for me it's just not an option but it's a great option for other people to have. The thread that I had was a copy of a thread that I actually did on another handle that I had at the time "Ultra Current". I was flammed like crazy for saying that the slime was actually a cyanobacteria but I think some people are starting to come around.

richyrich · 03-23-2014, 05:42 AM

(moved over from the slime club)

Quote:
Originally Posted by doneit

These were fresh clones brought in, over night you can see the brown stuff starting to grow.

03-23-2014, 04:54 AM	#1
richyrich Out of the slime, finally. Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 1,338	Can't tell if you have root rot or the brown slime algae, come on in ?! Take a look at the following 10 pictures and figure out if this is what you think you have. __________________ Copyright © 2006-2016 by RichyRich. All original academic, researched, formulative, intellectual, inventive, and inter alia production(s) of RichyRich is/are copyrighted. All rights are claimed reserved without prejudice. GOT SLIME ? https://www.icmag.com/ic/showthread.php?t=282319 So you are slimed. . . quickly make and use RichyRich Hydro Tea! RichyRich Hydro Tea Recipe and Instructions: 1. Add 4 gal of RO or bottled water in a 5 gal bucket. 2. Add 2-3 cups of EWC's and/or Ancient Forest. 3. Add 1/2-1 scoop of Great White. 4. Add 1/2-1 scoop of ZHO. 5. Add 30-50mL of Aquashield/Hydroguard. 6. Add 5mL of Root Excelurator. 7. Add 25mL of liquid Carbo Load or 25mL of molasses or 1tsp of brown sugar per 24 hours of brew time. 8. Bubble the brew for 24-48 hours. 9. Fridge your tea max 7-10 days. 10. New rez add 1-3 cups per 10 gal. 11. Add 1 cup of tea per 10 gal every 3rd day. 12. Watch and enjoy your amazing roots and yield. Last edited by richyrich; 03-23-2014 at 05:05 AM..
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03-23-2014, 05:04 AM	#2
richyrich Out of the slime, finally. Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 1,338	If you think you got a match with one of the previous 10 pictures, then you most likely have been slimed. You need to go directly to the Slime Haters Club. Jump directly to post # 1230 for the consolidation. Everything you need to know about the slime is there. Click the link. https://www.icmag.com/ic/showthread.php?t=55259&page=82 We have the pictures, the testimonials, and the proof that the slime can be beat and it does have a scientific name. If you don't have a match, then continue on down to the next set of pictures. __________________ Copyright © 2006-2016 by RichyRich. All original academic, researched, formulative, intellectual, inventive, and inter alia production(s) of RichyRich is/are copyrighted. All rights are claimed reserved without prejudice. GOT SLIME ? https://www.icmag.com/ic/showthread.php?t=282319 So you are slimed. . . quickly make and use RichyRich Hydro Tea! RichyRich Hydro Tea Recipe and Instructions: 1. Add 4 gal of RO or bottled water in a 5 gal bucket. 2. Add 2-3 cups of EWC's and/or Ancient Forest. 3. Add 1/2-1 scoop of Great White. 4. Add 1/2-1 scoop of ZHO. 5. Add 30-50mL of Aquashield/Hydroguard. 6. Add 5mL of Root Excelurator. 7. Add 25mL of liquid Carbo Load or 25mL of molasses or 1tsp of brown sugar per 24 hours of brew time. 8. Bubble the brew for 24-48 hours. 9. Fridge your tea max 7-10 days. 10. New rez add 1-3 cups per 10 gal. 11. Add 1 cup of tea per 10 gal every 3rd day. 12. Watch and enjoy your amazing roots and yield.
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03-23-2014, 05:18 AM	#3
richyrich Out of the slime, finally. Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 1,338	Take a look at the following pictures and see if you have a match. If you found a match in the last set of pictures, you most likely have root rot also known as pythium. This thread is going to be mainly dedicated to root rot and all root problems not slimy. Slimers, you go to the Slime Haters Club. If you are not sure or don't have a match to any picture, stay in this thread. We will try to get it figured out. You will help yourself the most by giving us your story, details, and PICTURES so we can best help you. Descriptions from person to person are subjective and will vary wildly. We will be at a handicap without pictures. Use that camera in your pocket that's in your cell phone. __________________ Copyright © 2006-2016 by RichyRich. All original academic, researched, formulative, intellectual, inventive, and inter alia production(s) of RichyRich is/are copyrighted. All rights are claimed reserved without prejudice. GOT SLIME ? https://www.icmag.com/ic/showthread.php?t=282319 So you are slimed. . . quickly make and use RichyRich Hydro Tea! RichyRich Hydro Tea Recipe and Instructions: 1. Add 4 gal of RO or bottled water in a 5 gal bucket. 2. Add 2-3 cups of EWC's and/or Ancient Forest. 3. Add 1/2-1 scoop of Great White. 4. Add 1/2-1 scoop of ZHO. 5. Add 30-50mL of Aquashield/Hydroguard. 6. Add 5mL of Root Excelurator. 7. Add 25mL of liquid Carbo Load or 25mL of molasses or 1tsp of brown sugar per 24 hours of brew time. 8. Bubble the brew for 24-48 hours. 9. Fridge your tea max 7-10 days. 10. New rez add 1-3 cups per 10 gal. 11. Add 1 cup of tea per 10 gal every 3rd day. 12. Watch and enjoy your amazing roots and yield.
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03-23-2014, 05:24 AM	#4
richyrich Out of the slime, finally. Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 1,338	(moved over from the slime club) Quote: Originally Posted by doneit I have a brutal brown fungi that is now airborne.. no matter what i have tried it wins.. do you have a recommendation for this? I tried some teas in the past with no luck. any help would be appreciated __________________ Copyright © 2006-2016 by RichyRich. All original academic, researched, formulative, intellectual, inventive, and inter alia production(s) of RichyRich is/are copyrighted. All rights are claimed reserved without prejudice. GOT SLIME ? https://www.icmag.com/ic/showthread.php?t=282319 So you are slimed. . . quickly make and use RichyRich Hydro Tea! RichyRich Hydro Tea Recipe and Instructions: 1. Add 4 gal of RO or bottled water in a 5 gal bucket. 2. Add 2-3 cups of EWC's and/or Ancient Forest. 3. Add 1/2-1 scoop of Great White. 4. Add 1/2-1 scoop of ZHO. 5. Add 30-50mL of Aquashield/Hydroguard. 6. Add 5mL of Root Excelurator. 7. Add 25mL of liquid Carbo Load or 25mL of molasses or 1tsp of brown sugar per 24 hours of brew time. 8. Bubble the brew for 24-48 hours. 9. Fridge your tea max 7-10 days. 10. New rez add 1-3 cups per 10 gal. 11. Add 1 cup of tea per 10 gal every 3rd day. 12. Watch and enjoy your amazing roots and yield. Last edited by richyrich; 03-23-2014 at 05:40 AM..
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03-23-2014, 05:26 AM	#5
HUGE Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 2,151	Best way to not get root rot or slime is to switch to dtw coco.
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03-23-2014, 05:39 AM	#8
richyrich Out of the slime, finally. Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 1,338	(moved over from the slime club) Quote: Originally Posted by doneit This started about 3yrs ago when i received some bubba cuts that were rooted but dying, the roots were brown, should have tossed them but i had no idea what was about to befall us. We run a top feed perlite system that feeds 4 times a day, 100 gallon rez per 2k SOG. I have 4 owned spots that had to be abandoned because of this disease. half million in properties. I have tried just about everything, list off the top of my head... mycostop actinovate bleach pool shock 35% peroxide dutch master zone immunux alliet wg excel lg ro water from outside source tap water from outside source great white some canadian express root enhancer? SMS Physan UV sterilization Im sure i am forgetting some other products. I have run 100's of experiments from seed/clone, soil flood and drain etc.. They only thing that kind of worked was zone, however once the flant got to 20 days flower and new root development slowed, the fungi won! Pool shock helped, but the amount need everyday to keep the ppm to 1.5 caused salt toxicity by early flower and killed them anyways. I Sent to sample out.. one to penn state, and one to wisonsin.. results came back that we have a pythium/rhizotona problem.. lol No details to exactly what the disease is. Now.. if i take cuts and give them a physan bath.. i can take them to any other place and they will grow disease free. This tells me that it is not systemic to the plant. I now know it is not in the local water or mediums, if i bring in new cuts or seedlings they acquire the disease over night, not using any materials from my spot. So what ever we have is in spore form and grows EXTREMELY fast. This problem has retired many people in my area, it spread quick, not everyone could afford to move to a new location. Any help will be very welcome and appreciated! __________________ Copyright © 2006-2016 by RichyRich. All original academic, researched, formulative, intellectual, inventive, and inter alia production(s) of RichyRich is/are copyrighted. All rights are claimed reserved without prejudice. GOT SLIME ? https://www.icmag.com/ic/showthread.php?t=282319 So you are slimed. . . quickly make and use RichyRich Hydro Tea! RichyRich Hydro Tea Recipe and Instructions: 1. Add 4 gal of RO or bottled water in a 5 gal bucket. 2. Add 2-3 cups of EWC's and/or Ancient Forest. 3. Add 1/2-1 scoop of Great White. 4. Add 1/2-1 scoop of ZHO. 5. Add 30-50mL of Aquashield/Hydroguard. 6. Add 5mL of Root Excelurator. 7. Add 25mL of liquid Carbo Load or 25mL of molasses or 1tsp of brown sugar per 24 hours of brew time. 8. Bubble the brew for 24-48 hours. 9. Fridge your tea max 7-10 days. 10. New rez add 1-3 cups per 10 gal. 11. Add 1 cup of tea per 10 gal every 3rd day. 12. Watch and enjoy your amazing roots and yield.
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03-23-2014, 05:40 AM	#9
Snype Banned Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: In Heaven Posts: 5,163	Sometimes some Cyanobacteria is resistant to Chlorine. I had this type for years and the only thing that worked for me was to sterilize all my equipment with Erythromycin. It worked wonders for me. Physan20 didn't do anything at all for me for the specific Cyanobacteria that I had. I tried everything. Almost gave up growing because of all the problems and all the money that I lost at the time. I also have a thread on the topic in my signature for people who can't kill it with Physan 20. I like your idea on your tea. My problem is that I grow in sterile systems and nothing living in RDWC systems. So for me it's just not an option but it's a great option for other people to have. The thread that I had was a copy of a thread that I actually did on another handle that I had at the time "Ultra Current". I was flammed like crazy for saying that the slime was actually a cyanobacteria but I think some people are starting to come around.
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03-23-2014, 05:42 AM	#10
richyrich Out of the slime, finally. Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 1,338	(moved over from the slime club) Quote: Originally Posted by doneit These were fresh clones brought in, over night you can see the brown stuff starting to grow. __________________ Copyright © 2006-2016 by RichyRich. All original academic, researched, formulative, intellectual, inventive, and inter alia production(s) of RichyRich is/are copyrighted. All rights are claimed reserved without prejudice. GOT SLIME ? https://www.icmag.com/ic/showthread.php?t=282319 So you are slimed. . . quickly make and use RichyRich Hydro Tea! RichyRich Hydro Tea Recipe and Instructions: 1. Add 4 gal of RO or bottled water in a 5 gal bucket. 2. Add 2-3 cups of EWC's and/or Ancient Forest. 3. Add 1/2-1 scoop of Great White. 4. Add 1/2-1 scoop of ZHO. 5. Add 30-50mL of Aquashield/Hydroguard. 6. Add 5mL of Root Excelurator. 7. Add 25mL of liquid Carbo Load or 25mL of molasses or 1tsp of brown sugar per 24 hours of brew time. 8. Bubble the brew for 24-48 hours. 9. Fridge your tea max 7-10 days. 10. New rez add 1-3 cups per 10 gal. 11. Add 1 cup of tea per 10 gal every 3rd day. 12. Watch and enjoy your amazing roots and yield.
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