[cocogrower]

HI!

English is not my native language so apologize if i write funny or in pour english!

My intention is to start a perpetual grow 12/12 from seed.

The set up will be in a box 50x100 cm (20x40") height 100cm and the light will consist of two led lights with 60 3w diodes each. I will probably grow in coco and with canna coco

Since the box is so small i have to keep the plants in manageable size, but i still don't wanna end up with 10 cm tall 2 gram plants. Idealy they would finish 30 - 50 cm tall- to give me space for lamps and pots. And i don't want them to branch out (most strains don't do when flowered from seed i believe)

I've previously - 2007 - grown grapefruit in coco-slabs under HPS and they got around 90 -100 cm when flowered about a week after germination, and 10- 15 cm tall. They also got pretty branchy..

That was under 1200w and with very optimized condition: temp humidity etc. I was super happy with flavor, high and productivity, so if you think they would keep under 50 cm from seed and with less red light i would gladly do Grapefruit again!

I would also like to try other varieties (that's one of the reasons why i choose 12/12 from seed perpetual, so please point me in the right direction if you have tried this method with other strains from female seeds?

Height is my primary concern (30-50 cm) but i also appreciate:

# Stability - (so i can return to a strain and get similar results)
#High - rather than stoned, even if it would be nice with one more mellow variety to grow once in a while.
# productivity - So that i can brag about how good my setup is...

Someone might say that i have to try to see how the plants behave in my setup, and thats certainly true to some degree, but my hope is to get some input here that will eliminate some of the errors in the trial-and-error-process.

So far i've considered the following strains:
#Grapefruit - if not to tall?
#Pure AK
#White widiw x big bud - if not to sedative or indica dominant to take of from 12/12.

#and so many others...

If anyone know any good threads or grow journals that would be informative for in my strivings to optimize this setup i would be more than thankful for tips!

Thank's in advance, and best regards,
Cocogrower

[cocogrower]

Hi Again!

Sorry if i'm inpatient,


bu does anyone has ANY input on any female seed-strain on 12-12 from seed?

Grapefruit is of my list, since i think she would grow to big unless i severely mistreats her. (something i wouldn't wanna do with such a beautiful girl, or any woman for that matter)

/Cocogrower

[dank.frank]

you should be looking for something that is a sativa dominant hybrid. Something that will give a bit of proper stretch and fill in properly so you can still get a proper yield. Look at the 12 wk'ers...



dank.Frank

[cocogrower]

Thank you so much for the input DF!

Even if i want them to end up maximum 50 Cm?

Have you tried doing that 12/12 from seed? What medium did you use (everything seem to grow so fast in coco with run to waist..

What strain would you recomend? Female seeds don't declare the genetics so well and don't tell how they grew the plants find out their height.


I've done pretty much research before starting this thread and am under the impression that sativa dominant hybrids tens to grow really fast under 12-hour light regime since the genetics come from equatorial countries..

I'm leaning against 50/50 hybrids or maybe up to 65 % if they are really fast flowering.

Another option is to put them in really small pots or pull some fan leaves to stunt the growth. (might try that with the Nevilles Haze)

/CG

[repoman.es]

Originally Posted by cocogrower

Thank you so much for the input DF!

Even if i want them to end up maximum 50 Cm?

Have you tried doing that 12/12 from seed? What medium did you use (everything seem to grow so fast in coco with run to waist..

What strain would you recomend? Female seeds don't declare the genetics so well and don't tell how they grew the plants find out their height.


I've done pretty much research before starting this thread and am under the impression that sativa dominant hybrids tens to grow really fast under 12-hour light regime since the genetics come from equatorial countries..

I'm leaning against 50/50 hybrids or maybe up to 65 % if they are really fast flowering.

Another option is to put them in really small pots or pull some fan leaves to stunt the growth. (might try that with the Nevilles Haze)

/CG

It doesn't have to be a sativa dominant plant. You can grow an indica dominant plant very well with 12/12 also. I'm not much info Female seeds but I always hear good things about their Bubblegummer.

[cocogrower]

Thanks Repoman!

I'll check that one out more carefully! An euphoric high is never wrong... And the one on the picture grows wiith those vigorous foxtails that one of my Grape phenos used to do!

/CG

[cocogrower]

Thank´s Dank frank and Repoman for the input!

I ended up using Big grape, bubblegummer and WWxBB from femaleseeds. I also bought ak-48, master kush, and northern light from nirvana. Hopefully i find one strain that suits my setup from yhose seeds.

Right now they are only seedlings but i will let you know how the seeds from femaleseeds responded to 12/12 from seed with coco and led.

but thats in 10-12 weeks. haha

ciao!

[burmese]

try something very short man,,, try something developed for 12/12, some strains grow better or the same with 18/6
fact is some plants grow more in night, and its plentiful energy in 12/12 system
and opposite of that some plants grow small when lights are on and they mostly coleect only energy for night grow, and then wonder that plants putted on 12/12 have very much energy stored in roots and this energized plants become hermie //if its not her will//
--- try no mercy seeds especially developed for 12/12, i have growed many Commercial and landraces but my last grow and quickest what i remember was hashplant, he builds only first true leaf, three bladed leaf and flowered

[OldRod]

Originally Posted by burmese

try something very short man,,, try something developed for 12/12, some strains grow better or the same with 18/6
fact is some plants grow more in night, and its plentiful energy in 12/12 system
and opposite of that some plants grow small when lights are on and they mostly coleect only energy for night grow, and then wonder that plants putted on 12/12 have very much energy stored in roots and this energized plants become hermie //if its not her will//
--- try no mercy seeds especially developed for 12/12, i have growed many Commercial and landraces but my last grow and quickest what i remember was hashplant, he builds only first true leaf, three bladed leaf and flowered

Oh god !
Do you have internet at all ?
You can find lot of info about photosyntesis, meristem, collumela, protoderm etc etc ...

fact is some plants grow more in night, and its plentiful energy in 12/12 system

I love cause plants have more energy during dark but not during light ... at 12 /12 LOL I love you boy

[burmese]

sorry oldrod, iam only blunderer, i wrote only from my experience and grow plants by intuition , and really swear that some strains or phenos grow better and quicker with 12/12 or lower light //mainly those highland ,foggy or rainy areas where is much of those diffused low light //
thanks and peace
// i am very inspired to grow only with oldest possible seeds and select in 12/12 system because its a better way for future genetic ,diversity and acclimatization//