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Old 07-21-2014, 10:20 PM #141
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The purpose is to search for the best pheno's to posses vigor, budding power, and mold resistance.
After that I will dust the selected few with my best auto flowering medicinal-variety pollen.

Some of these crosses I made last year are already up and blooming elsewhere at my own GG plots, as well as on other peoples plots and who are having the same vision and dedication as I have with them.
Ofcourse the end result after an untold number of years would be to add some of the auto Finola qualities into our medicinal auto flowering varieties.

The surplus sensi bud to remain non pollinated will be used as a replacement for tobacco and be smoked.
We noticed it is much the same in effect as nicotine free E-sigarettes, and will help a lot in dealing with tobacco with drawls for those who are trying to quit.
There are also lots of ppl who just like to smoke it, or drink it as a tea for it's somewhat calming effects, stomach dis functions and general health improving qualities.

The majority of seeds from the resulting stock will be up for share on an other site as IC, though only to be shared with ppl who are very well informed about the project, and who will vow to not let stray pollen pollute any other proven medicinal gear as only those who are to belong to their project.
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Dutch,
Great info on your CBD experiment with Finola.
We are looking at planting 1 acre next season 2015, we are in the UK Latitude 53'.
Do you think this will be the correct strain for our climate ?
Also is it possible to get a feminized strain of the Finola seeds, or one with a reduced number of males (saves labour when taking them out)
Also as some of your previous discussions, is it legal to press, CBD oil (less than 0.2%thc) and what in your experience is the % CBD content ?
Any info would be usefull and much appreciated.

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nice thread DutchHemp, thanks for sharing, hope to see more pics and read about the harvesting and further processing.

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i'm pretty sure these are EU approved hemp seeds, you don't get feminized as far as i know, but if you google the list of EU approved hemp you will see what exactly is available and what it's good for, i.e. long straight stems are best for fiber production, bushy ones are better for seeds.
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We are looking at planting 1 acre next season 2015, we are in the UK Latitude 53'.
Do you think this will be the correct strain for our climate ?
Also is it possible to get a feminized strain of the Finola seeds, or one with a reduced number of males (saves labour when taking them out)
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i'm pretty sure these are EU approved hemp seeds, you don't get feminized as far as i know, but if you google the list of EU approved hemp you will see what exactly is available and what it's good for, i.e. long straight stems are best for fiber production, bushy ones are better for seeds.
Finola is a normal dioecious hemp variety and you don't get neither monoecious seeds (obviously) nor, like with ALL hemp seed varieties, feminised ones (those only exist for some drug type cultivars). Finola is likely the best EU approved variety for northern Europe but other short-flowering ones may fit your bill as well.
Before you start googling, have a look at THE HEMP SEED HUB and the links in there. I've done most of the work already, there's unfortunately not too much more concrete infos on the net about specific varieties. There's another thread about Finola HERE.
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Finola is a normal dioecious hemp variety and you don't get neither monoecious seeds (obviously) nor, like with ALL hemp seed varieties, feminised ones (those only exist for some drug type cultivars). Finola is likely the best EU approved variety for northern Europe but other short-flowering ones may fit your bill as well.
Before you start googling, have a look at THE HEMP SEED HUB and the links in there. I've done most of the work already, there's unfortunately not too much more concrete infos on the net about specific varieties. There's another thread about Finola HERE.
Ornamental,
Thankyou for the info.
Do you have any information of the %THC & %CBD of all the strains which would suit our climate ?
Also is it a case of culling all the male plants when they show themselves at about 20 days or so. To stop them pollinating the females, and the fems producting seeds ?
Is it not possible to use a all fem, mother stock and take of cuttings ? thus ensuring all female plants ??

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Thankyou for the info.
Do you have any information of the %THC & %CBD of all the strains which would suit our climate ?
Also is it a case of culling all the male plants when they show themselves at about 20 days or so. To stop them pollinating the females, and the fems producting seeds ?
Is it not possible to use a all fem, mother stock and take of cuttings ? thus ensuring all female plants ??

Thanks
Karl...
Ornamental,
In your experience, is Finola the correct strain for ourselves to plant in the 2015 season ? its legallity in the UK, as I understand is ok, as it has less than 0.2%THC. We will obvioulsy need a license from the Home Office to grow this crop. Are you aware of any other type of hemp (UK legal) which has been previously grown in the UK and what the results were ?

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Hi Karl,

You're free to use cuttings but I don't see how you're managing that for a full acre... thousands upon thousands... Anyway, taking cuttings from Finola may prove impossible as it is 'functionally autoflowering'; that is, it flowers spontaneously under most culture conditions. Then again, you'd have to check with the UK law if it's permitted to use cuttings and have all female or unseeded crops. Some countries allow only the sowing of approved, unadulterated seeds from one of the official agencies or prohibit seedless crops.

Culling works, it has been done, but it's a pain in the arse. Besides, there are no EU approved all female varieties nor male sterile ones. You can choose between dioecious varieties (males and females at a 1:1 ratio), monoecious ones ('full-hermie females'), and female predominant ones (mostly females with a few 'hermies' and/or males). More to the latter is explained in my link above (and in my signature).

THC concentration of all approved hemp cultivars (EU, Canada, Russia, China) is well below 0.2% (often below 0.03%), CBD in most older varieties is around 2 to 5% whereas modern ones are often lower and certainly not higher (usually, THC to CBD ratio is 1:10-20). The general rule for all EFTA/EU countries where hemp is principally legal (with or without licence) states that it doesn't matter what hemp variety you sow as long as it's approved by the EU. Most European hemp varieties which have an approval in their country of origin also have the EU approval (There's a link in above mentioned Hemp Seed Hub to the European Seed Crop Database or some name like that). PLEASE, read the first post in said link thoroughly and also look at the embedded links (below the chapter 'Legend', small font size), there's a lot of information you're currently asking about .
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In my (limited) experience growing Finola if you look at a female with lust in your eye she will produce seeds.

I do not believe you can possibly get all the males out of a one acre crop. But so what? I like seeds and I don't think seeds will affect the cannabinoid content much. If you are after CBD, which I am, then you will need to do testing or find some EU data. I haven't had much luck with that yet.

My Finola are all very small, planted in hard infertile soil. I picked some yesterday at 57 days from seed. The males are pretty much dead and the females, all less than a foot tall, are full of seeds, perhaps 50% nice ripe ones. The crop Dutch is growing is a week or two ahead of me and far better looking. Kinda wish I had his farm.

Finola matures very fast and should do well in the UK growing season if planted in favorable ground and well cultivated.

Finola stems seem weak and puny compared to other Cannabis I have grown and probably no good for fiber.

I did inadvertently make a cross between Finola and (drug type with a very study stem) Satori and am growing out a few of the F1s. They are a very interesting combination.
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Guys,
Thanks for ths replys. I am a novice at growing hemp, so please bare with me .....
Lets say we order 25kg of Finola seeds, says on the website enought to do 1 hectare or approx 2 acres. Would i be right to presume 50% male 50% female ? If this is the case, the female will produce flowering buds later than the male's, the male plants will die away (do the male plants produce seeds and buds ? ) what amount of seed to bud ratio will you get from the female plants ?
Also what time of year is best to plnat in UK Lat 53', End of May ?
Does soil need to be high in Nitrogen ?

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