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Old 01-31-2014, 06:26 AM #1
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Breeding out indica traits from a hybrid to create a pure sativa?

So i received Kerala x Skunk 1 freebies and I figured i would just store them and forget them since i am focusing on pure Sativas, but now i am thinking i could do a breeding project where i outcross the skunk 1 characteristics as much as possible.

Is it possible to get an almost pure sativa? How many generations would this most likely take?
I am trying to isolate as many sativa characteristics as possible and that includes the long flowering times.

let me know if you have any suggestions.
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Are you aware that Kerala *is* a sativa?
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Skunk always rears its smelly self, not that there's anything wrong
with that, per se.

I cross Afghans, and leave the long flowering types breeding to the
pros, hence my reply, Ace Seeds.
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Sorry to jump in on this OP but I don't think you got an answer to your question and I'd like to know if this is possible as well. For example let's say I have a blueberry, one of it's parents is a nice thai according to DJ Short. Is there any possible way to get back to that Thai parent or something close if all you have are some blueberry seeds?

I know if you breed them together you get f2's which if the Blueberry is an F1 Hybrid and I think it is IIRC then the f2's should show a wide variety of phenotypes. Would any of those be similar to the parents?
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In a TRUE F2 generation, you unlock ALL the parental material that was ever present in the genetics and they will surface in some form or another...in some combination...

Through many generations of selective breeding you can certainly be a more sativa influenced plant - but it would be wise to start with the most PURE / non-poly type plant you can find for such a project...

To take (a x b) x (c x d) and try to isolate only A - is going to take a lot of work - especially if you consider that a, b, c, d are already poly hybrids in their own right...

The post I linked describes methods not intended to produce the best environmental conditions to produce plants to smoke - but rather, to help give an inside look at which plants contain more sativa influence in a hybrid - the plant that thrives BEST under those particular conditions, will be the plant that possess the most sativa genes...but it in no way indicates that it will produce better smoking material...

When you breed a plant, the phenotype that is currently being expressed based on the environmental factors changes what information is passed onto the next filial generation. This is in part why plants get custom tailored to thrive in regional environments for outdoor growing vs breeding a plant indoors for outdoor cultivation. Acclimation.



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In a TRUE F2 generation, you unlock ALL the parental material that was ever present in the genetics and they will surface in some form or another...in some combination...

Through many generations of selective breeding you can certainly be a more sativa influenced plant - but it would be wise to start with the most PURE / non-poly type plant you can find for such a project...

To take (a x b) x (c x d) and try to isolate only A - is going to take a lot of work - especially if you consider that a, b, c, d are already poly hybrids in their own right...

The post I linked describes methods not intended to produce the best environmental conditions to produce plants to smoke - but rather, to help give an inside look at which plants contain more sativa influence in a hybrid - the plant that thrives BEST under those particular conditions, will be the plant that possess the most sativa genes...but it in no way indicates that it will produce better smoking material...

When you breed a plant, the phenotype that is currently being expressed based on the environmental factors changes what information is passed onto the next filial generation. This is in part why plants get custom tailored to thrive in regional environments for outdoor growing vs breeding a plant indoors for outdoor cultivation. Acclimation.



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Great post, very informative! Thanks!
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I grew Kerala X Skunk this season as well and I really enjoyed the plant. I must say that the Skunk#1 is a strain renowned for bringing the best of others in the crosses, I believe it's not really overpowering on hybrids.

My Indian Skunk were really productive and faster than I expected but still had a great energetic exotic flavour and high. I would love to test Kerala X Haze now... by the way, apart from exploring for tropical phenos at the second generation, Kerala Skunk crossed to pure Kerala lanrace sounds great as well and they are easy to get.

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