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Old 01-26-2014, 07:33 PM #1
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A new Guerilla growing method.?

Hello! This is a description of a new kind of growing method that i never heard of before. And the writer claims a succes rate from previously about 10% to 95% !

"hey buddy
ive experimented three seasons doing this,
the best method ive come up with ,
has given me near 100% success,
That is to put the seeds in either just the earth or better, rockwool
cubes , which are buried up to their necks.Then the important thing is to
cover them in a clear plastic cup. this acts like a mini greenhouse.
Use a nail from the stove to melt two tiny holes in the cups, which prevents
dampening off or mold with a little circulation.

Now when ive just used planting with no plastic cups ive gotten like 2 out of 60
to come up, but with the cups ill get about 95%.
Come back in about two to three weeks to then uncover the seedlings.
The real bonus to this system is not carrying in a pile of seedlings
which can be a real sycurity issue. instead a baggie of pre popped
beans fitting right in your pocket!
yeah i did find it important to pre pop them,
if you dont some may not germ for a good while,
if you pre pop just make sure you dont plant in to to early
may sounds right.
good luck."

Basically, is the "Plastic cup" This effective?

I live in Sweden, so i am about to plant me a good 80 plants this coming summer. And i cant have them inside for the baby period.

Thanks!
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Old 01-26-2014, 08:02 PM #2
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^ great post!

i've been growing outdoors for 30 years and starting from seed directly in the ground is a cold B I T C H.

the clear plastic cups can also deter bugs (especially my enemy; cutworms), mice, rabbits.
you can carry in quite a few stacked cups at a time in a locker/gym bag.

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the logistics of carrying in plants to be transplanted is much less desirable that the seeds/seedling method.

"you can carry in thousands of seedlings. you can safely carry in only a few transplants at a time ( and they often get beaten up badly in the process)" General Idiit

the more trips you make to a grow site the more you endanger the grow site's security.

i'm from wild hemp country; america's bread basket, kansas. hemp comes up on its own early april and never preflowers. it has no indoor 24-16 hr. daytime cycle to outdoor daylight 13-15 hr. photo cycle shock to go thru.

transplant too early and get into preflower hell. bugs, mice, extra hot temps later in late may/june, early july.

with your method the earlier the better ( later flowering varieties) (after the last frosts/freezes and sunlight past 13 hrs). if first crop fails in 7-10 days you got opportunity for another go at it, and another, and another. gots to have lots of seeds.

i've tried to grow from seedlings with a 4" tail on 'em straight into the ground as have thousands of other growers. it does not usually pan out well.

transplanting large well established plants outdoors is my present method and it works. i get big yields per plant. i've always wanted to do some straight seedling transplants early in the year, but to no success.


i'm going to try this out as well bamse92.

i will transplant late flowering young seedlings with 4" tail in middle april ( n hemisphere) directly into very fertile soil using this method. i'll have my indoor transplants ready to go should this method not work out.

you've made a fantastic first post.

now, if you are a platinum blond, drop dead gorgeous nordic beauty.....

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Old 01-26-2014, 08:32 PM #3
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^ great post!

i've been growing outdoors for 30 years and starting from seed directly in the ground is a cold B I T C H.

the clear plastic cups can also deter bugs (especially my enemy; cutworms), mice, rabbits.
you can carry in quite a few stacked cups at a time in a locker/gym bag.



the logistics of carrying in plants to be transplanted is much less desirable that the seeds/seedling method.

"you can carry in thousands of seedlings. you can safely carry in only a few transplants at a time ( and they often get beaten up badly in the process)" General Idiit

the more trips you make to a grow site the more you endanger the grow site's security.

i'm from wild hemp country; america's bread basket, kansas. hemp comes up on its own early april and never preflowers. it has no indoor 24-16 hr. daytime cycle to outdoor daylight 13-15 hr. photo cycle shock to go thru. plant too early and get into preflower hell. bugs, mice, extra hot temps later in late may/june, early july.

with your method the earlier the better ( later flowering varieties) (after the last frosts/freezes and sunlight past 13 hrs). if first crop fails in 7-10 days you got opportunity for another go at it, and another, and another. gots to have lots of seeds.

i've tried to grow from seedlings with a 4" tail on 'em straight into the ground as have thousands of other growers. it does not usually pan out well.

transplanting large well established plants outdoors is my present method and it works. i get big yields per plant. i've always wanted to do some straight seedling transplants early in the year, but to no success.


i'm going to try this out as well bamse92.

i will transplant late flowering young seedlings with 4" tail in middle april ( n hemisphere) directly into very fertile soil using this method. i'll have my indoor transplants ready to go should this method not work out.

you've made a fantastic first post.

now, if you are a platinum blond, drop dead gorgeous nordic beauty.....

idiit is very happy right now.
Cool, man. Remember to share your experience on here, afterwards. As will i.
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Old 01-26-2014, 08:40 PM #4
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^ most def
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Old 01-27-2014, 12:43 AM #5
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This is great for preventing early flowering as well (for indica-dom and autoflowering strains). I just learned that starting seeds indoors under 18/6 forces short-flowering strains into flower shortly after they're brought outside! Talk about a season changer :(


The only other options are mimicking your sunrise/sunset times indoors, and THIS method.


I personally like this method more, for the sake of easy transportation. That and it's less of a pain compared to messing with your timers every other day lol


Great post!
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Old 01-27-2014, 11:00 AM #6
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the clear plastic cup tops need to be secured so that they don't get moved off; wind, mice, etc..

i love simple elegant solutions. i've tried plastic "pup tents" constructed od with the seedlings inside. the clear cup idea is simple genius. ashamed i didn't think of it.

i'm going to bury a plastic cup with a couple of seedlings transplanted into it and then covered with clear plastic cup. i'll use twist ties to attach the bottom of the clear top to the buried plastic cup by making holes for the plastic twist ties to go thru.

i can move the bottom cup w/seedlings to the exact prepared hole location when the seedling gets big enough and has a good enough rootball and transplant the root ball into the prepared hole (discarding the cups at this time). the cups stack into small area and can be buried to hide any guerrilla grow evidence later on.
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I like those walls of water. same principal but better...... cups,soda bottles both work
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Start the seeds in cups outdoors once the weather warms and then transplant. Defensless seeds in the wild dont survive.

I have to shake my head - you guy pay 20-40$ per seed to throw them on the ground????

I just got my last order of seeds for this years grow.1400$ !!! And really, in my world each on of those seeds has a potential value of 4000$ in product...... and you throw them on the grounddd....... with a plastic cul??? Goood lord you guys muxt be rich.
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and you throw them on the grounddd....... with a plastic cul??? Goood lord you guys muxt be rich.
Not necessarily, all it takes is one pollinated plant from one harvest to have more seeds than you know what to do with.
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Old 01-28-2014, 12:15 AM #10
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Start the seeds in cups outdoors once the weather warms and then transplant. Defensless seeds in the wild dont survive.
^^ essentially what we are doing. we are pre-popping 'em first. i'm letting 'em go until 4" tail and then put into plastic pots outdoors. once established root ball i transplant.

we make our own p2's, f1's, f2's etc... seeds by the hundreds, thousands.
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