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Old 03-06-2014, 04:05 PM #31
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"Any who wish to profit himself alone from the knowledge given him, rather than serve others through the knowledge he has gained from learning, is betraying knowledge and rendering it worthless"
Definitely true, I believe in progression and freedom of information, definitely a good thing.


Yeah will throw notes each others way, check out my photo albums and you can see my Seedism Kill-Watt is stretching from the Brass applications, it is known to stretch even though it is a predominantly Indica strain but the Heavy Afghanica Scott's OG is still remaining squat it seems it doesn't respond or it is at its genetic limit of stretch given the amount of time vegging which was 3 months & 1 week. just a continual observation.

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Sorry about the pics being upside down you could always save em to your comp and turn them around in the picture viewer, a bit annoying I know.
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Sorry about the pics being upside down you could always save em to your comp and turn them around in the picture viewer, a bit annoying I know.
When is aussie are they right side up???

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LMAO!

Haha, nah there just like that when they get uploaded, ICMAG should have an edit option so you can crop & rotate you pictures.

So do you reckon I should I use the Brassinolide at the same amount I used it at the first time when I do use it in week 4 of flower?
Do you think the excess amount would have stayed in the system of the plant or would have the plant used it all during it's 14 to 21 day hormone cycle?

I wonder if a plant can reserve excess Brassinolide mmm.....a wild guess, potentially the hypothesis of "reserve excess Brassinolide" is how it staves of infection from a virus or pathogen for it's entire life or either it uses the Brassinolide in a hormone cycle & that facilitates certain processes to set it up to be able to stave of infections viruses etc.

A wild stab in the dark.
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my growpartner once foliared (unknown concentration) of GA3.

the buds never stopped stretching. be warned.
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Man you are really on to something now.
Hormones do wear off after a while ...How long you ask?...This is strain dependent for sure I have seen it in my own studies!
Brass works with GIBB that is already in the plant, Gibb makes big fluffy yields also....Brass is very interesting.

If your buds start looking fluffy (they do a little) cut back some.
It is always a trade off Quality vs Quantity a plant can only focus its energy on one or the other when you push it genetically.
You may find the perfect strain that will do both.....but that is a tough one!

As far as ratio goes:

I still recommend >0.01 ppm brass-100 bap 1 week before flower.
Switch lights
Wait 3-7 days if you see too much stretch then add up 100 ppm
BAP alone in a spray.
When stretch is done spray with >0.01 ppm brass-100 bap again.

Again this is strain dependent!!!!!!


I have not sprayed late in flower.
BAP has a waiting period I heard but I have also heard the contrary version.
We smoke it so we don't know for sure!

I would use Brass in feed water.....maybe BAP too...High amounts BAP in feed water can inhibit root growth.
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Hey Pomodoro, cool name.

Back on Post 14 of this thread I quoted this.

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I haven't gotten around to using the Chitosan Oligosaccharide, GA-3 witch i don't think i'll use since every report that iv'e read seems to indicate that it needs to be used in such micro amounts that I don't have to tools to dose out something that small like a micro pipette.
I wont be using it. Every report iv'e read has resulted in people wishing they hadn't used it, i'm glad I can learn from others mistakes, since it was on my schedule to use, phew!

Cheers for the conformation of Gibberellin's effects, appreciated.

You maybe able to stop all upward growth by using a large amount of Cytokinin, one called (6-BAP) when used in amounts of 1000 PPM it should retard the upward growth signaling more side branches, it all depends on how much (GA3) was used, which is unknown.

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For the post above where I say "(6-BAP) when used in amounts of 1000 PPM" I mean 500 PPM.


Hey Shaggy. that's good to know "hormones wear off after a while", cheers.

"If your buds start looking fluffy (they do a little) cut back some." Is this comment directed at me? if so what should I cut back on?

Once again it's a waiting game and my eyes will be watching keenly , my Lucky Charms & my Killa-Watt are still stretching 2 inch's a day. In 7 days when my plants are in the excepting stage of there hormone cycle on the 14th I will give them 100 to 500 PPM to stop the stretching or reduce it depending on if they stop stretching within the 7 day waiting period, will see soon enough, excited with anticipation

My plant hormone cycles are in a 14 to 16 day periods fyi.

Also I cant "switch lights" because i'm growing outdoor or did you mean natural light switch to do with light decreasing in the Autumn months?
Also everything usually takes about two weeks longer outdoor no instant transition to 12/12.

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For the post above where I say "(6-BAP) when used in amounts of 1000 PPM" I mean 500 PPM.


Hey Shaggy. that's good to know "hormones wear off after a while", cheers.
Gibb did not seem to wear off all plants died veg/dirt!

"If your buds start looking fluffy (they do a little) cut back some." Is this comment directed at me? if so what should I cut back on?
yes....hard to be sure unless i was there
too late now but next time for the stretchy strain use less BRASS or maybe more BAP !!
You are moving at light speed compared to me .....are you an educated person? Male?(don't want to offend in the future)


Once again it's a waiting game and my eyes will be watching keenly , my Lucky Charms & my Killa-Watt are still stretching 2 inch's a day. In 7 days when my plants are in the excepting stage of there hormone cycle on the 14th I will give them 100 to 500 PPM to stop the stretching or reduce it depending on if they stop stretching within the 7 day waiting period, will see soon enough, excited with anticipation

I too am exited you are using high amounts with good results so far but please be careful!!!

My plant hormone cycles are in a 14 to 16 day periods fyi.

Also I cant "switch lights" because i'm growing outdoor or did you mean natural light switch to do with light decreasing in the Autumn months?
Yes transition
Also everything usually takes about two weeks longer outdoor no instant transition to 12/12.
You may need to play with the timing a bit then.
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Thumbs up Nice Photos Pomodoro!

Hey Pomodoro I was looking through your albums & your Dinafem Sweet Deep Grapefruit DAY 50 photo looks amazing! such well formed trichomes!

Did you use any plant hormones in that grow? or any of your grows, any info on that topic would be much appreciated
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