Panama: 10 weeks 12/12 and still pistills only - Cannabiogen - International Cannagraphic Magazine Forums

MostlyMe · 12-20-2013, 03:54 PM

I have a Panama going that is way behind the rest of my sativa filled room: 10 weeks on 12/12 and still no swelling to be seen. I know there are some long flowering pheno's, but this seems rather extreme to me. Here's a pic:

The Panama is the hairy one in the middle, next to the bulb. At the top there is a Sour Cream and at the bottom a Zamaldelica, both within a week or 2 from harvest.

Just my roll of the dice, or is there anything I am doing wrong?

Koondense · 12-21-2013, 03:35 AM

Try 11/13?

Jhhnn · 12-21-2013, 04:41 AM

Ace says 74 days, Cannabiogen says 81. She's a true sativa diva, so it may take longer than that, particularly if the lighting is marginal for the strain. Some need more intensity than others, apparently.

MostlyMe · 12-21-2013, 07:28 AM

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Originally Posted by Koondense

Try 11/13?

I might do that, but after my other ladies have finished. There is some concern longer nights affect thc levels negatively.

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Originally Posted by Jhhnn

Ace says 74 days, Cannabiogen says 81. She's a true sativa diva, so it may take longer than that, particularly if the lighting is marginal for the strain. Some need more intensity than others, apparently.

I hadn't thought of that, thanks. My 250 watt hps might not be enough.

grandsrin · 12-21-2013, 11:33 AM

To much N i think!

good luke!

MostlyMe · 12-21-2013, 02:12 PM

Could be, although she has yellowed quite a lot and my feeding regimen has been pretty constricted: a light dusting of guano topdressing and a weekly dose of BAC bloom. All my other sativa's do fine, so she would have to be very finicky. I'll stop feeding though.

12-22-2013, 03:13 AM

70 days is just starting for some phenos, as you are finding out.

I do a thunk and zamaldelica that go 120 days easy, under 110 w PLL.

Adjust lighting 20 minutes every week or so to get 11/13.

You will harvest soon enough, another 40-60 days. Totally worth it.

MostlyMe · 12-22-2013, 02:07 PM

Thanks, that's good to hear. Seems I got two extreme pheno's from our friends at Ace and CBG: a really fast Zamaldelica and a really slow Panama. That's fine though, the long flowering ones usually bring something special to the table. I will start shortening the days.

On another note: under the yellow glare of hps I thought pistills were already withering, but it turns out they are turning red. Panama Red, baby!

MostlyMe · 01-01-2014, 03:25 PM

Here's my Panama now. I'm starving it (fan leaves are yellowing) and reducing light time by 30 min a week (on 11/13 now). It's fox tailing quite alot. It's also very leafy for my taste. What do you guys think?

(top picture is rotated; cola's of this fimmed plant are pretty much horizontal and need support).

pinkus · 01-01-2014, 03:49 PM

I think you got a long flowering Sativa. It does look leafy, but the buds themselves look like they have nice resin. Long and leafy are always chances with a Sat, though muuuuuuuuuuuuuuch less severe with Cannabiogen's or Ace's help. I think you'll be happy you jumped through the hoops she's throwing up when it's all said and done.

Panama red was a favorite of mine in the late 70s-early 80s. I've not had it since. I'm already Sativa heavy but am vacillating between Panama, Golden tiger and Destroyer.... or maybe santa marta gold. :P

12-20-2013, 03:54 PM	#1
MostlyMe Member Join Date: Apr 2013 Posts: 391	Panama: 10 weeks 12/12 and still pistills only I have a Panama going that is way behind the rest of my sativa filled room: 10 weeks on 12/12 and still no swelling to be seen. I know there are some long flowering pheno's, but this seems rather extreme to me. Here's a pic: The Panama is the hairy one in the middle, next to the bulb. At the top there is a Sour Cream and at the bottom a Zamaldelica, both within a week or 2 from harvest. Just my roll of the dice, or is there anything I am doing wrong? __________________ Roses are gay Violets are gayer Screw this poem Listen to Slayer.
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12-21-2013, 03:35 AM	#2
Koondense Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2012 Posts: 2,265	Try 11/13?
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12-21-2013, 04:41 AM	#3
Jhhnn Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Denver CO Posts: 4,949	Ace says 74 days, Cannabiogen says 81. She's a true sativa diva, so it may take longer than that, particularly if the lighting is marginal for the strain. Some need more intensity than others, apparently.
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12-21-2013, 11:33 AM	#5
grandsrin Member Join Date: Jun 2007 Posts: 201	To much N i think! good luke!
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12-21-2013, 02:12 PM	#6
MostlyMe Member Join Date: Apr 2013 Posts: 391	Could be, although she has yellowed quite a lot and my feeding regimen has been pretty constricted: a light dusting of guano topdressing and a weekly dose of BAC bloom. All my other sativa's do fine, so she would have to be very finicky. I'll stop feeding though. __________________ Roses are gay Violets are gayer Screw this poem Listen to Slayer.
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12-22-2013, 03:13 AM	#7
gloryoskie Guest Posts: n/a	70 days is just starting for some phenos, as you are finding out. I do a thunk and zamaldelica that go 120 days easy, under 110 w PLL. Adjust lighting 20 minutes every week or so to get 11/13. You will harvest soon enough, another 40-60 days. Totally worth it.
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12-22-2013, 02:07 PM	#8
MostlyMe Member Join Date: Apr 2013 Posts: 391	Thanks, that's good to hear. Seems I got two extreme pheno's from our friends at Ace and CBG: a really fast Zamaldelica and a really slow Panama. That's fine though, the long flowering ones usually bring something special to the table. I will start shortening the days. On another note: under the yellow glare of hps I thought pistills were already withering, but it turns out they are turning red. Panama Red, baby! __________________ Roses are gay Violets are gayer Screw this poem Listen to Slayer.
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01-01-2014, 03:25 PM	#9
MostlyMe Member Join Date: Apr 2013 Posts: 391	Here's my Panama now. I'm starving it (fan leaves are yellowing) and reducing light time by 30 min a week (on 11/13 now). It's fox tailing quite alot. It's also very leafy for my taste. What do you guys think? (top picture is rotated; cola's of this fimmed plant are pretty much horizontal and need support). __________________ Roses are gay Violets are gayer Screw this poem Listen to Slayer.
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01-01-2014, 03:49 PM	#10
pinkus Member Join Date: May 2009 Posts: 938	I think you got a long flowering Sativa. It does look leafy, but the buds themselves look like they have nice resin. Long and leafy are always chances with a Sat, though muuuuuuuuuuuuuuch less severe with Cannabiogen's or Ace's help. I think you'll be happy you jumped through the hoops she's throwing up when it's all said and done. Panama red was a favorite of mine in the late 70s-early 80s. I've not had it since. I'm already Sativa heavy but am vacillating between Panama, Golden tiger and Destroyer.... or maybe santa marta gold. :P
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