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Old 01-04-2014, 01:00 PM #31
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Thanks omera1... i am having some serious fun with Tria and down for and info/discussion etc...

For some reason Tria has grabbed me and restored a little passion in this art i was honestly plateaued with... I think it is a little bit of facination that its reaction not totally understood and also that it tends to be hush hush as far as commercial nute companies (canna) go...
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For some reason Tria has grabbed me and restored a little passion in this art i was honestly plateaued with... I think it is a little bit of facination that its reaction not totally understood and also that it tends to be hush hush as far as commercial nute companies (canna) go...
sry too much bafflegab(?) for a non english person^^
what do you mean?
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Ouch! Lol... ummm... just know i appreciate your Triacontanol information...
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How about a quick guide for TRIA-noobs? Have polysorbate in the mail, waiting for my card to clear to order some 1-Tria
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I'm new here... am I blind or is there no edit option for posting? Anyways... meant to say,

How about a quick guide on how to mix TRIA for correct foliar dosage?
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edit is bottom right corner next to quote ...Maybe your tooo nooob tooo edit.

Tria guide here
https://www.mbferts.com/media/How%20t...20solution.pdf

Less than 1 PPM seems to be the sweet spot.
Drench/soak or foliar.
Use on rooted cuttings all the way to flush!
I personally like to add a tiny bit more late in bud.
But watch out for those foxtails!

Talk about hand feeding......it took me many months to find good info on Tria.
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Just kiddin ya know!
I keep bumpin the threads with good Tria info.

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Sorry Omera1 to intercept but your posts made me thinking
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500ml Water & 100mg Triacontanol, no solvents. nothing...just water. And its stable. no flocculation etc
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it is totally in solution. no visible particles etc. and again, it is 100% RO water and triacontanol. the answer of all the questions. maybe i will write a "how to" in a few days. the key was to use ultrasonic
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the only reason that you can use such high amounts is that your particle size is very high, around 5-20 micron. prefered size is <0.3 micron, so your plant cant absorb all of your particles...only the small ones.


So you have a yar with water and triacontanol and nothing else, you used ultrasound and the liquid is milky: You don't have a solution but a suspension or colloid; the former will eventually floculate after some time. Good thing is the high melting point, when it starts creaming the particles won't fuse.
Pure water is somewhat risky when using pure non-ionic detergents (triacontanol may be regarded as such) to obtain stable micelles because of the insufficient zeta potential...
Well, you state <0.3 um particle size which would speak for a colloid... how did you determine that (with a Zetasizer)?
Still, a colloid is not a solution and no matter what, you won't get triacontanol into a real solution without additives.

BTW Beeswax was mentioned by someone and completely ignored; it might provide a slow release formulation (only in soil)?
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