[Egzoset]

The cost of production was said to be around 89 ¢/g in my province last December, as i recall, while Québec's GreenHouse Producers announced in La Terre de Chez-Nous that they'd be ready to offer "bio" with tracking similar to that of chrysanthemums for just 2.50 $/g. Meaning the rest is greed fueling "organized crime".

[Big_Al's_Buds]

Originally Posted by HiFiGanja

Overhead is not that big

Rent $1000
Utilities $300
Employee $2400
Misc $300
Your salary $6000+ 1700 tax 7700
$11700

$11700 per month for the store front and 1 employee

$1200-1500 per lb $3.30 per gram
Sell for $10

If you sell 200 grams per day that's $2000 with $1340 profit per day. Hell even if you only sell 100 grams per day that's $670 profit per day. So $20100 profit per month. Even if you paid yourself $6000 take home your overhead for the month is still only about
$11700

Almost 300% profit margin for retail.

Where are you renting for $1000 a month! Here it is $15-$20 a sqf for rent then $10-$15 extra a sqf for expenses added to the rent paid monthly regardless of usage. Prime location in the city centre double that. A small 10x10 shop a little outside the city centre is $3-$4000.

But yea, dispensaries are for people that dont know any dealers, people that actually use it medically and only recently started, or if you are in a different city, out late at night, or some other instance when you just need a quick gram.

A quarter is $40-$50 from almost any dealer. Usually $50, maybe that will change when legalized to maintain customers, but its been $50 a quarter for years. Last time I was in Denver it was $20 a quarter buy 3 get one free from most dispensaries. Thats free market pricing shutting down the black market right there. Theres no "street" dealers cause theres no point.

[Big_Al's_Buds]

Originally Posted by Mikell

People buy beer for the same reason they buy cannabis. Some are simply willing to pay more for higher quality of either.

Craft beer craft cannabis. Mass market beer mass market cannabis.

Take the alcohol or cannabinoids out and we wouldn't even know they existed.

I agree with that to an extent. Except quality cannabis will be cheaper from your buddy then the mediocre LP weed in the shops. Your buddy doesnt have to pay govnt employees $25 an hour union wages to sell it for them.

Also, no one wants shitty weed, but people LOVE shitty beer. Have you ever heard a bunch of guys be like "lets get fucked up on shitty weed tonight!" Shitty beer still gets you the same level of drunk, it just tastes worst. Shitty weed doesnt get you as high, and smells, looks, and tastes worse. I really think they arent that comparable.

Maybe when the uninformed new smokers start they will buy from the govnt and not know any better, and over a generation everyone will eventually. But people who smoke now and have a connection arent going to pay more for lower quality. Theres a loyalty that goes to your steady dealer, that wont change.

[HiFiGanja]

Originally Posted by Big_Al's_Buds

Where are you renting for $1000 a month! Here it is $15-$20 a sqf for rent then $10-$15 extra a sqf for expenses added to the rent paid monthly regardless of usage. Prime location in the city centre double that. A small 10x10 shop a little outside the city centre is $3-$4000.

But yea, dispensaries are for people that dont know any dealers, people that actually use it medically and only recently started, or if you are in a different city, out late at night, or some other instance when you just need a quick gram.

A quarter is $40-$50 from almost any dealer. Usually $50, maybe that will change when legalized to maintain customers, but its been $50 a quarter for years. Last time I was in Denver it was $20 a quarter buy 3 get one free from most dispensaries. That's free market pricing shutting down the black market right there. Theres no "street" dealers cause theres no point.

There's plenty of retail spaces for $1000-2000 per month. You don't need big or be on Robson St. Even if you paid $4k in rent at 100g per day an dispensary would still have $6K pure profit left over.

I know lots of people who grow 20+ lights who now piece out at $100-120 per oz.

[Buddha1]

I'm guessing...but IMHO this is probably the illegal Weed businesses future, once recreational use is legalized and the government is controlling it the same way they control the alcohol industry.

Step 1...The Dispenceries are finished first since they are openly selling without proper permits and licensing, which makes them esay targets and the government will view them as competition and everyone knows how the government is and how they create monopolies to force the population to purchase goods and services only from them.

Step 2...If eliminating dispensaries doesn't give them a big enough market share(it won't... governments are greedy and total control freaks), then laws will be changed to force the black market dealers and growers out, making it extremely dangerous to be involved in the black market weed business in any way...exactly as it was done in the 1930's when alcohol prohibition ended.

Step 3... Total control over pricing, distribution and taxing and a complacent population thanking them for making it safe for them and their children.

Let's face it... the "Weed Bootlegger", be it selling or growing or whatever... days are numbered.
The only person's that benefit from legalization of any illegal substance, are the government and there millionaire friends.
Very few "Grass Roots" people will be able to comply to the regulations set up for legalization and be able to transition over to the legal Weed industry.

So enjoy it my fellow growers... but plan for the inevitable future and start putting away a nice pile of cash...we've got a 1 or 2 year window and then we are finished... prices are already in the toilet and with all the newbies growing now, the market is completely saturated, prices will continue to drop.
So don't pipe dream about how you will own and operate a legal Weed Store, unless you're a millionaire friend of the government, it most likely won't happen and if it dose, good on you....

Peace...B

[Mikell]

Originally Posted by Big_Al's_Buds

I agree with that to an extent. Except quality cannabis will be cheaper from your buddy then the mediocre LP weed in the shops. Your buddy doesnt have to pay govnt employees $25 an hour union wages to sell it for them.

Also, no one wants shitty weed, but people LOVE shitty beer. Have you ever heard a bunch of guys be like "lets get fucked up on shitty weed tonight!" Shitty beer still gets you the same level of drunk, it just tastes worst. Shitty weed doesnt get you as high, and smells, looks, and tastes worse. I really think they arent that comparable.

Maybe when the uninformed new smokers start they will buy from the govnt and not know any better, and over a generation everyone will eventually. But people who smoke now and have a connection arent going to pay more for lower quality. Theres a loyalty that goes to your steady dealer, that wont change.

And I agree with some of what you're saying. The LP weed is low quality, but their coffers are deep and well stocked. Throw enough money at it and they will go from producing Black Label to Budwiser and some medicore craft.

The people buying Black Label don't revel in it, but their weed's shit and their hash is green. Glove and scissor refuse.

The flower of a Budwiser drinker is comparable to mid grade commercial. Not exactly a high benchmark to reach the largest segment of consumers.

The micro producers will handle the finer points. What happens in the beer world, in many sectors, when these small batch style businesses?

Budwiser buys them. InBev to be accurate.


On a side note.

Anyone see the LP products cray posted on IG?

"Flower Leaf Tips" is my favourite new expression for shake.

[Gmack]

Link to the insta post?

[Mikell]

https://www.instagram.com/p/Bf8jidrBjoG/

Sorry, "Flower Tips".

[TychoMonolyth]

Originally Posted by Mikell

https://www.instagram.com/p/Bf8jidrBjoG/

Sorry, "Flower Tips".

WTF?
(Pre Ground. lol)


Oh well, You can keep it right next to the Parsley in the spice cupboard. Besides, I'm sure I bought some of that when I was 16. Parsley that is.

[Buddha1]

Originally Posted by Mikell

https://www.instagram.com/p/Bf8jidrBjoG/

Sorry, "Flower Tips".

And people are buying into this obvious marketing ploy...ingenious marketing sceem for them... down right stupid on the buyers end.

I guess there's no need to waste time and wages on making Bubble Hash, BHO OR other concentrates from trash if you have a following of sheepeople.

Hilarious and unbelievable at the same time... lol.

Peace...B