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Old 12-03-2013, 04:18 PM #1
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Other WiFi grow haveing problems with herms?

I just finished some WiFi that's unreal other than I started seeing herm spot where the branches come off the main stalk at week 6 or 7. I only saw 2 or 3 spot and removed them very gently. Didn't see any more till trim time, a few plants here and a few plants there have signs of hermyz and a few of those spots produced beens but I see none on the out side of any flowers. I did find some hermy spots tat didn't produce seeds.
Kinda pisses me off, not sure if its just that pheno, not sure if they got stressed, or is this a problem that most are having with the WiFi?

Any Input please
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My last run was my first run and I had 2 different plants. Both very similar but one of them did produce one pollen sac at about the same time in as yours. I just found a single seed the other day in the jar of the plant that didnt have any signs.

I will be keeping a close eye on it for the next run. I dont mind the odd seed anyway especially when the end product is as good as it is.

It could be stress related as I did have some heat issues as well as it being a new tent, there are still some pinholes that need to be taped up.

On a side rant, I wish they made a tent that was actually light proof cause the DR150II isnt it.
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Kinda pisses me off, not sure if its just that pheno, not sure if they got stressed, or is this a problem that most are having with the WiFi?
pisses you off? apparently you don't understand that hermies happen 95% of the time because the grower stressed his plants...because you didn't know that im going to assume right off the bat that you don't have a ton of experience...

since im assuming you don't have a ton of experience i am also going to assume that you probably haven't been gardening legitimate plants for 20 plus years...given those assumptions i am also going to assume that your grow wasn't absolutely perfect from the plants perspective...guessing you didn't have your plants even close to 100% dialed in...probably a light leak or two as well as a photoperiod fuckup, a ph spike, maybe a deficiency or two...coupled with a little heat stress and a slightly over or under watered garden...

i don't say that to be mean, just that these things all contribute to plant stress, and are very common, they happen to everybody, though most people new to gardening will have several of these things happen during their first grow...even the experts need a few runs to get a strain dialed in, but for a newbe it can be a total lottery...and thats not even accounting for the lighting, humidity, and temps...as well as pests...

hermies are common when dealing with elites, these plants (like the white and fire og) were grown often from hermie seeds found in a bag of weed, being from hermies themselves they are genetically more likely to pass the trait on to their progeny like wifi...meaning that with traditional breeding you use large populations and select the best of potency AND stability, but when you are starting with only 2 elite, amazing, freak miracle plants? you have less room to create stable plants when you start in this way, they can then be stabilized over time by the breeder but it must be done slowly, as the most stable plants are not likely to be the most potent ones in every instance...

what i am trying to say i guess is that you are dealing with an elite strain and that as good as it is it will not be as hermie resistant as a traditionally bred strain like ak47. raskals strains are def more hermie resistant than rezdogs were, and id say they are as stable as anybodies out there using similar elite genetics...someday it may become as stable as anything but for now you are getting gold in seed form wich is pretty rare, i haven't bought a single strain traditionally bred over in europe that holds a candle to the elites being screwed around with over here in the usa, and you didn't even have to drive to cali, pay a med patient to buy you a clone, and drive all the way back to your state to get an elite...and chances are the originals would have hermied on you just as quick as your hybrid did...

hermies happen to the best of us, but newbies certainly don't have any right to be "pissed" that they got them if you ask me...they should accept that even if they did as good a job as they could and thought their grow was perfect, it most likely was far from it, and the odds are staggeringly in favor of it being your fault...

i suppose it makes you feel better about yourself, though, to automatically assume you did everything as close to perfect as possible right? and that was possible because you know more about growing and breeding and wifi in general than the experts who bred it right? because you are a special snowflake and if anything goes wrong in your life it must be somebody elses fault right? because you're perfect aren't you?

all that being said i have had hermies on my wifi, but it had a cause...me, and most of my wifi grows are hermie free, it's all about stress reduction...i don't go blaming the breeder for a very common issue that happens to everybody now and again, knowing im a noob and it's probably my fault...
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I am having some issues aswell with the eilte strains aswell as some OGR WIFI but I agree with Dino Cock .probably a light leak or two as well as a photoperiod fuckup, a ph spike, maybe a deficiency or two...coupled with a little heat stress and a slightly over or under watered garden..n I use my past fuckups to learn for the next. This next grow I do I will have everything dialed in so I can give an honest review on the OGR elite strains. CANT WAIT !! HAHA PEACE!!
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no hermies for me. The plants all came through looking great. Ive heard some people say that whitefire can throw a few nanners late in flower, just pick them off. As long as it's good smoke who really cares?
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Dinosaur is right on , but in a kinda harsh way of putting it LOL =) but sometime the truth hurts.. Just like he mentioned, Highend exotics and clone only's tend to be prone to stress a lot more than regular cross's depending on "genetics/breeding" .. some our best and most famous strains today are from "so called Hermies" there not genetic OX herm's there stress enduced XX chromosomes , when the plants get into a normal growing regimen the stress will be will go away and no more male "pods" will appear .. XO XX is good , OX no Good! , growth hardners and inhibitors, lumen shock ect , all will contribute to stress on new seedlings , also never grow seedlings over 18hrs light cycles!
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I planted 3 seeds this summer from my hermied white jones that was screwed and knocked up by my female seeds pure AK or Paradise white berry transsexuals. Those plants flowered female with no herms. You just obtained free female seeds. Hell with customs ripping our seed orders off, I'd be happy with free wifi female seeds. Good luck on your future grows.
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pisses you off? apparently you don't understand that hermies happen 95% of the time because the grower stressed his plants...because you didn't know that im going to assume right off the bat that you don't have a ton of experience...

since im assuming you don't have a ton of experience i am also going to assume that you probably haven't been gardening legitimate plants for 20 plus years...given those assumptions i am also going to assume that your grow wasn't absolutely perfect from the plants perspective...guessing you didn't have your plants even close to 100% dialed in...probably a light leak or two as well as a photoperiod fuckup, a ph spike, maybe a deficiency or two...coupled with a little heat stress and a slightly over or under watered garden...

i don't say that to be mean, just that these things all contribute to plant stress, and are very common, they happen to everybody, though most people new to gardening will have several of these things happen during their first grow...even the experts need a few runs to get a strain dialed in, but for a newbe it can be a total lottery...and thats not even accounting for the lighting, humidity, and temps...as well as pests...

hermies are common when dealing with elites, these plants (like the white and fire og) were grown often from hermie seeds found in a bag of weed, being from hermies themselves they are genetically more likely to pass the trait on to their progeny like wifi...meaning that with traditional breeding you use large populations and select the best of potency AND stability, but when you are starting with only 2 elite, amazing, freak miracle plants? you have less room to create stable plants when you start in this way, they can then be stabilized over time by the breeder but it must be done slowly, as the most stable plants are not likely to be the most potent ones in every instance...

what i am trying to say i guess is that you are dealing with an elite strain and that as good as it is it will not be as hermie resistant as a traditionally bred strain like ak47. raskals strains are def more hermie resistant than rezdogs were, and id say they are as stable as anybodies out there using similar elite genetics...someday it may become as stable as anything but for now you are getting gold in seed form wich is pretty rare, i haven't bought a single strain traditionally bred over in europe that holds a candle to the elites being screwed around with over here in the usa, and you didn't even have to drive to cali, pay a med patient to buy you a clone, and drive all the way back to your state to get an elite...and chances are the originals would have hermied on you just as quick as your hybrid did...

hermies happen to the best of us, but newbies certainly don't have any right to be "pissed" that they got them if you ask me...they should accept that even if they did as good a job as they could and thought their grow was perfect, it most likely was far from it, and the odds are staggeringly in favor of it being your fault...

i suppose it makes you feel better about yourself, though, to automatically assume you did everything as close to perfect as possible right? and that was possible because you know more about growing and breeding and wifi in general than the experts who bred it right? because you are a special snowflake and if anything goes wrong in your life it must be somebody elses fault right? because you're perfect aren't you?

all that being said i have had hermies on my wifi, but it had a cause...me, and most of my wifi grows are hermie free, it's all about stress reduction...i don't go blaming the breeder for a very common issue that happens to everybody now and again, knowing im a noob and it's probably my fault...
There really wasn't a need to be so harsh ...a whole lotta assumptions for someone who doesn't even know all the specifics of this particular grow ....j/s!! I was always told assumption is the mother of all fuck ups!! G4L says he didn't know what happened and is asking for input to try to see what may have in his grow and to try to get his Wifi better and he gets ripped?!! tsk, tsk, tsk ....and 95% of herms don't happen because of the grower ...get your facts right, you sound just like one of these upstart "breeders"/seed companies trying to blame peeps for your rushed out untested hermie gear!!


I wouldn't want any plant in my grow if the conditions have to be absolutely "perfect" in order to prevent it from throwing male sacs just to grow it! Far too many strains and crosses out here to have to deal with that bs!! I've grown Wifi before and bred with it too, I have over 25 yrs of gardening exp ...it took me three runs to dial her finicky ass in but she's never hermed on me either!! But then again I might be stuck on noob level lol ...no need to rip peeps asking for knowledge (how else will he learn if he does ask?) ....I was told there is no such thing as a stupid question, but there is a such thing as a stupid answer!!

Here's a pic of me & a bro's Wifi hybrid, Kilpatrick OG = {White fire (fire dom) x Alien Double Dawg}
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