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Old 11-16-2013, 09:22 AM #1
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My Special Girl is a Hermaphrodite

I have a good pheno as a cutting only which I really want to keep in seed form. She came from a naner-throwing female pollinating the plant next to her.

She is a fantastic specimen but she has a "herm" issue. I can deal with picking off male parts when I see them and I can deal with a few seeds at harvest time but I she would be PERFECT to me if she was all lady.

Could one breed "herm" traits out of a female (cut only) by using stable male pollen?

Would you pollinate the female, collect seeds, take cuts, grow out females and select the best. Then repeat the process until you were satisfied?

Is this possible in a small area, say with six to ten plants?

Would you use a single male?

If the plant in question is a hybrid with at least 5 different parent strains, which strain would you select to use as a "father"?

Does the "father" be one of the strains in the female hybrid or should it just not be prone to herm issues?

Thanks for any help/advice.
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I'm sure the 'hermi' trait can be bred out... plan on it taking quite a few generations of careful selection. Years with your setup/space.

What's so special about her? She root fat roots at the drop of a hat, yield well enough to keep, eat medium heavy, suck up light like crazy and hit your head just right?

LOTS of cannabis out there... I've tossed a LOT of 'Keepers' over the years... including a few that were 'prized' by others above all else.

Fun though, eh?

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Old 11-17-2013, 07:40 PM #4
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you could try giving her a light amount of urea nitrogen , let her stress and then take it away . the plant will react and gender will stabilize

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seed that fall from trees are fertilized in nature by the falling leafs that rot and cause a low level urea nitrogen the seeds imprint to this and thus stabilize the off spring seed to match the tree they fell from .., also making the seed gender stable . thus if you have a unstable gender repeat the stage you need to help correct its gender stabilization .. its worth a try , just give her 2 or 3 days of a very lean mix , the best way I have found yet . is put some of a healthy plants leafs in a blinder add just a 1/4 cup of water and you have a mix . give her a little and watch her close . most of the time it take from 3 -5 days ,,,,,
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Old 11-17-2013, 08:23 PM #5
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I have a good pheno as a cutting only which I really want to keep in seed form. She came from a naner-throwing female pollinating the plant next to her.

She is a fantastic specimen but she has a "herm" issue. I can deal with picking off male parts when I see them and I can deal with a few seeds at harvest time but I she would be PERFECT to me if she was all lady.

Could one breed "herm" traits out of a female (cut only) by using stable male pollen?

Would you pollinate the female, collect seeds, take cuts, grow out females and select the best. Then repeat the process until you were satisfied?

Is this possible in a small area, say with six to ten plants?

Would you use a single male?

If the plant in question is a hybrid with at least 5 different parent strains, which strain would you select to use as a "father"?

Does the "father" be one of the strains in the female hybrid or should it just not be prone to herm issues?

Thanks for any help/advice.
Could one breed "herm" traits out of a female (cut only) by using stable male pollen?

tazz11 reply : not likely the female in question is the dominate traits and by mating the male will most likely be over powered by her strain purities ... it would take a few generations and the changes would be slow coming ...

Would you pollinate the female, collect seeds, take cuts, grow out females and select the best. Then repeat the process until you were satisfied?
tazz11 reply: I would pollenate the female and make F1 seed then you have both genders .. if you stand any chance of getting the traits you want from her you will need both genders ....you can push pull with both genders ,imposable with one gender ...

Is this possible in a small area, say with six to ten plants?

Would you use a single male?
tazz11 reply : you can breeder two plants .. so numbers dose not change that . the numbers define stabilization ,test groups ..

would I use a single male

YES why make it harder then it already is ...lol just find a strong male and work from there ...this is why I said that about the urea nitrogen .. if you make seed with that female your passing her traits to the seed you make .. fix her first ...at one time I had over two dozen herm and was working with them every day for over 8 months, both genders ...

let me explain .. with our modern fertilizers they lack the urea nitrogen's that imprint the seeds in a natural path of nature . I believe and it is my own opinion this is why we get hermaphrodites to start with ..I see this as one of the main differences between IBL and none IBL strain bases ...
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in fact in a true IBL both genders filter into the stain base gene pool ,un like the breeder's strain base he is controlling the mating pairs and the qualities and purities of the given strains , in reality this is what makes the gender isolated sensimella different from the true IBL .
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That's funny, Green....found myself humming the tune!

Personally, I wouldn't use hermie pollen....rather tricky for stability....unless you have a lot of times/harvests on your hands.

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Specifically growers on here who have years of experience actually "Breeding" cannabis and not just tossing pollen around to make seeds. LOL

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Brred it with something where u will b able to spot the phenos, using similar plants will confuse u to which is your keeper. Find your keeper pheno. Might even create a better keeper.
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