[Phaeton]

Originally Posted by Blue Socks

Never heard of this and it sounds like it SUCKS.

The only problem I have with cannabis is I think I'm allergic to it. When I'm trimming or watering in short sleeves sometimes I will start to itch. I usually get around that by wearing long sleeves and gloves when handling the plants.

Other than that no issues from using cannabis, especially nothing as severe as this here. Holy hell that would suck, vomiting from smoking weed? Yikes!

Jumped right in on the first page without finishing the whole thread, not my normal but my normal never leaves the growing section. Panic day distractions going on here.
One of my trimmers experiences rash and itching semi regular, we have it narrowed down to one or both of two strains, others do not affect her. Sweaty hot days seem to let more toxin in.

Otherwise I chimed in to report a variant sometimes associated with the syndrome, thermoregulation is thrown out of whack on some folks. Out of four folks subjected to a third of a gram of 95% THC vapors in a fifteen minute period, one went into convulsions. Shivering to shaking to fetal position convulsions. Scary, so it was repeated to be sure.
Since it started with shivering we brought along a thermometer for the fourth episode. The temperature started to go up with the shivering, climbing through the shaking then peaking out at 104 F during the height of the convulsions.

We were not stupid, we just did not care whether or not we lived as long as it was mesmerizing. Ah, the wonders of youth.

Only one out of four was affected, who knows what a larger sampling would discover. Some folks get sick when a fever hits them so I wondered about the connection.

Anybody feel really chilly after several huge lungfuls in rapid succession?

[Phaeton]

OK, I went back and read it all. It puts some of my anecdotal recollections in context.

I was younger then, many posts mention research shows few if any old folks have the syndrome. I still occasionally vape too much oil and start getting the shivers. I STOP right fucking then, I do care if I live or die, strange how age makes life more valuable.

The coffee angle hit home as well. I would build my habit to twelve cups per day, cold turkey five days of the seven attempted then build up to twelve cups again. Now the limit is three cups due to heart surgery. This could have as much effect on my lack of current episodes as my stopping at first shiver does.

Additives make a small percentage of users sick, but just as few get CHS so separating them out needs to be done. Difficult challenge considering most bodies do not react to either. The temperature deregulation is definitely from THC, if we could get a larger sampling to find out how many folks are vomiting just from fevers it could clear up some connections.

[Bluto]

I friend and medical patient just developed this. She was hospitalized in Mexico on vacation. She is very sad because the cannabis helped with her conditions.

[ozza]

Originally Posted by Phaeton

Jumped right in on the first page without finishing the whole thread, not my normal but my normal never leaves the growing section. Panic day distractions going on here.
One of my trimmers experiences rash and itching semi regular, we have it narrowed down to one or both of two strains, others do not affect her. Sweaty hot days seem to let more toxin in.

Otherwise I chimed in to report a variant sometimes associated with the syndrome, thermoregulation is thrown out of whack on some folks. Out of four folks subjected to a third of a gram of 95% THC vapors in a fifteen minute period, one went into convulsions. Shivering to shaking to fetal position convulsions. Scary, so it was repeated to be sure.
Since it started with shivering we brought along a thermometer for the fourth episode. The temperature started to go up with the shivering, climbing through the shaking then peaking out at 104 F during the height of the convulsions.

We were not stupid, we just did not care whether or not we lived as long as it was mesmerizing. Ah, the wonders of youth.

Only one out of four was affected, who knows what a larger sampling would discover. Some folks get sick when a fever hits them so I wondered about the connection.

Anybody feel really chilly after several huge lungfuls in rapid succession?

it could be their insulin levels

[Phaeton]

Originally Posted by ozza

it could be their insulin levels

I take meds for diabetes now. Back then the diabetes wasn't even known of, but the body does not get diabetic all at once, prediabetes symptoms would have been present.

Nice call.

[Loc Dog]

Originally Posted by Phaeton

I take meds for diabetes now. Back then the diabetes wasn't even known of, but the body does not get diabetic all at once, prediabetes symptoms would have been present.

Nice call.

I hope you have some actual social contact. I am in suburbs, and have no contact with people, for over a decade, Except ill mother, and brother who hates my guts, and will probably turn me over to 50, when she dies.

I consider myself socially retarded. Only true friends, I have never met before.

[Stay Gel^N 247]

Sounds like they are smoking shit weed! Probably has pesticides and fungicides along with harsh chemical fertilizers. Maybe moldy brick or homegrown someone grew in their leech field.
You should only ever buy your cannabis from reputable growers, preferably grown with care in Humboldt county. Only then will you know for certain your smoke is if the highest quality...

[Stan G.]

Originally Posted by Sam_Skunkman

That said people that take Spice and other non Phyto-Cannabinoids should not be to surprised when they turn around and bite them, these compounds have not been tested for human safety, they are research tools, not something to take on a whim, you made a big mistake, so now live with it.
I have taken massive Cannabinoid doses, over 2500mg THC at a time, a natural Ghee extract from dry sifted resin, zero problems, for me, I saw many falling down, one or two may have gotten sick, out of hundreds, bit no chronic vomiting, never saw it. But I do not know anyone stupid enough to take a Spice type drug, except for a friend that took a different much stronger compound reportedly the strongest yet, not a JWH compound, and he had to sit in a warm bath for several days he could not stand, walk, talk, and he did not like it at all. I was glad he was ok afterwards as he was a scientist and a incredible researcher that was just curious, I will not mention the compound because I do not want to encourage people to find and take these compounds. It was more then 1,000 times stronger than THC.
-SamS

I have consumed massive amounts of Cannabis smoked and eaten. I have never had any symptoms of this. Occasional anxiety/irritability with certain cultivars. Very interesting thread though. I will stay tuned for any updates on this syndrome.

[Loc Dog]

I know a girl (50) whose son (30) I would swear had cannabis addiction, from going through it like nothing. Winds up he is back on smack.

[Skip]

Originally Posted by Stay Gel^N 247

Sounds like they are smoking shit weed! Probably has pesticides and fungicides along with harsh chemical fertilizers. Maybe moldy brick or homegrown someone grew in their leech field.
You should only ever buy your cannabis from reputable growers, preferably grown with care in Humboldt county. Only then will you know for certain your smoke is if the highest quality...

If you read the thread thoroughly, you'd know that this is a real syndrome. Cannabis does not effect everyone in the same way. Most of these ppl have tried medical grade and still have the same issue, eaten, smoked, shatter, etc. Only difference is degree of dis-ease experienced.

As a chronic allergy sufferer (I'm esp. allergic to cannabis flowers growing in an enclosed room!), I know that the body can sometimes develop associative allergies.
In fact I was never allergic to flowers until I lived next to a carnation field on Maui for a couple of months.
At first, I wasn't really bothered at all by the smell, but by the second month, I suddenly had such a bad allergy, I would have to go to the beach for relief.

It took awhile for me to understand that carnations were sprayed with nasty chemicals (probably when I was away), and that I probably had a reaction to the chemicals that then became associated with the flowery carnation smell/pollen. This association quickly generalized to all flowers.

I lived with that for years, until I discovered Zyrtec which gave me nearly instant relief and now I've taken it every day for a long time...

Anyway, this relates to the cannabinoid hyperemesis (means lots of vomiting, btw) because it could be possible ppl at one point smoked or ingested some really bad cannabis, whether chemical or mold or whatever that set off their antihistamine/immune/vomit response. And due to the associative nature of some allergy responses it became generalized to cannabis in any form.

Bodies can react in a specific way to a generalized stimulus if it has been conditioned already, a la pavlov's dog.

If that is the case, then it might be possible to reverse this conditioning by exposing one to a positive conditioning to the same stimulus.

This has been the subject of very old and recent studies if you're interested you can look them up.

Now I'm wondering if hypnosis might help in some of these cases.
That's because you can get people to re-associate (mentally) negative experiences via their subconscious.
Whether that could translate into reprogramming automatic physical responses is unclear.