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JamesFarmer · 10-16-2013, 04:41 PM

URGENT!!!! Washington Medical Patients: LCB wants to take away your safe access to medicine!!

https://wasavp.blogspot.com/2013/09/l...ks-public.html

WSLCB, Department of Health and Department of Revenue Announce Timeline for Drafting Recommendations on Medical Marijuana

Recommendations due to Legislature by January 1, 2014

OLYMPIA – The three state agencies responsible for drafting recommendations to the Legislature on medical marijuana today published their timeline and announced a process for the public to provide written comment. The public may provide written comment at medicalmarijuana@liq.wa.gov.


Section 141 of the state operating budget directs the Liquor Control Board to work with the departments of Revenue and Health to develop recommendations to the Legislature regarding the interaction of medical marijuana and the emerging recreational marijuana system. The workgroup, which includes senior staff from each agency, has been meeting since July.

Date (2013) Milestone
October 21
Provide draft recommendations to stakeholders for comment
November 8
Deadline for written comments
November 21-22
Present draft recommendations to appropriate House and Senate committees at Legislative Assembly Days
January 1, 2014
Deadline for delivering final recommendations to the Legislature

For more information about the current state of medical marijuana, please visit the WSLCB website at www.liq.wa.gov or the Department of Health website at www.doh.wa.gov.

Posted by Inga Manskopf at 2:47 PM

Labels: I-502, medical marijuana, Washington State Liquor Board

https://lcb.app.box.com/draft-recommendations

https://www.scribd.com/doc/172873835/...ecommendations

**yortbogey** · 10-16-2013, 04:59 PM

its WA states effort to LUMP medical and recreational ...TOGETHER
so EVERYONE must BUY from state stores....

medical patients will never be able to afford the 25% price hike....

this is bound to have backlash....
i502 was meant to stay clear of ALL existing Medical Cannabis laws in WA

the state is back pedaling .... why..... $$$$$$$$$$$$$
so the people will rebuttal.....

JamesFarmer · 10-16-2013, 05:16 PM

Sorry pasting the text didn't work. Follow the link for the full text.

I stumbled across one of the agencies draft recommendations posted online. Unfortunately I lost the link and have not been able to find it again. If anyone comes across the link please post it here.

The recommendations were not favorable. They suggested that 502 stores would satisfy the "safe access" need for medical patients and would eliminate the need for the provisions in RCW69.51A that allow personal growing and possession of a 60 day supply.

If these recommendations many of us will loose access to legal affordable meds.

For myself: over time I have managed to pull together the gear to grow my own meds. My current cost is around $2-3 a gram plus my time. If the recommendations become law I will be forced to drive 75-130miles twice a month to pay (approx) $12.50 a gram.

SORRY! I CANNOT AFFORD IT!

Current rules have given us safe, legal and affordable access to meds. The proposed changes will take that away.

JamesFarmer · 10-16-2013, 05:33 PM

Another loss:

Today I can choose from a vast selection of strains. I favor high CBD strains as they are most effective for me. If I am forced to buy my meds from a recreational store will I have that choice?

JamesFarmer · 10-16-2013, 06:49 PM

I tried posting a comment to the article linked above. After going through the process I received the message:

Your post will be visible after approval.

Yah right....

BigSteve · 10-17-2013, 04:10 PM

5 grams a day X 365 days a year = 1825 grams a year consumed by me.

I can see why they want my business.

JamesFarmer · 10-17-2013, 05:00 PM

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Originally Posted by BigSteve

5 grams a day X 365 days a year = 1825 grams a year consumed by me.

I can see why they want my business.

The way things are looking Spokane may be the nearest 502 store to where I live.
It take me almost 5 hours and $70 in gas to make the round trip. On that trip I could buy 28 grams. That will last me less than two weeks.

$12.50/gram X 28 grams = $350 plus gas $70 total $420 every two weeks.

Producing my own: power nutes etc = $2.50/gram X 28 grams = $70

What we have now WORKS! We don't need to fix it.

TAX MY BEER! TAX MY TWINKIES! DON'T TAX MY MEDICINE!!!

JamesFarmer · 10-23-2013, 08:49 PM

In case you missed the links to LCB & DOH recommended rule changes:

https://lcb.app.box.com/draft-recommendations

https://www.scribd.com/doc/172873835/...ecommendations

HawaiianStylie · 10-30-2013, 09:47 PM

After reading those recommendations, I am extremely disappointed.

I have been very impressed with the way that MMJ has been progressing. It seems like there is a lot of forward progress being made in the industry. The standards for most of the medicine that I have seen we're top-notch.

After reading the recommendations it seems that the State Liquor Department is going to cripple the progress being made in the Medical Marijuana industry.

JamesFarmer · 11-07-2013, 11:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HawaiianStylie

After reading those recommendations, I am extremely disappointed.

I have been very impressed with the way that MMJ has been progressing. It seems like there is a lot of forward progress being made in the industry. The standards for most of the medicine that I have seen we're top-notch.

After reading the recommendations it seems that the State Liquor Department is going to cripple the progress being made in the Medical Marijuana industry.

These are "draft recommended changes". They are accepting public input to shape the final recommendations. I have been pleased to find that many of the folks I have contacted in Olympia are listening and receptive to what we have to say.

We can affect the outcome! CALL!! EMAIL!! WRITE!! Tell them to protect our SAFE ACCESS!!

If we are forced to work through 502 stores it is paramount to closing the pharmacies and telling us to go to the liquor store for medicine.

We need reasonable access to the strains appropriate to medical.

We need reasonable access to affordable medicine.

We need reasonable access to medicine close to our homes.

I cannot afford to drive 70-130 miles to pay $12-20 a gram for cannibis grown for the recreational market.

I know that those of you along the I-5 corridor are likely to have some level of access to decent meds if the recommendations are put in place. Please remember that most of us East of the Cascade's will not. Give us a hand. SPEAK UP! Contact LCB & your elected Rep's.

10-16-2013, 04:41 PM	#1
JamesFarmer Member Join Date: Apr 2012 Posts: 375	Medical rule changes in the works URGENT!!!! Washington Medical Patients: LCB wants to take away your safe access to medicine!! https://wasavp.blogspot.com/2013/09/l...ks-public.html WSLCB, Department of Health and Department of Revenue Announce Timeline for Drafting Recommendations on Medical Marijuana Recommendations due to Legislature by January 1, 2014 OLYMPIA – The three state agencies responsible for drafting recommendations to the Legislature on medical marijuana today published their timeline and announced a process for the public to provide written comment. The public may provide written comment at medicalmarijuana@liq.wa.gov. <!--[if !supportLineBreakNewLine]--> <!--[endif]--> Section 141 of the state operating budget directs the Liquor Control Board to work with the departments of Revenue and Health to develop recommendations to the Legislature regarding the interaction of medical marijuana and the emerging recreational marijuana system. The workgroup, which includes senior staff from each agency, has been meeting since July. Date (2013) Milestone October 21 Provide draft recommendations to stakeholders for comment November 8 Deadline for written comments November 21-22 Present draft recommendations to appropriate House and Senate committees at Legislative Assembly Days January 1, 2014 Deadline for delivering final recommendations to the Legislature For more information about the current state of medical marijuana, please visit the WSLCB website at www.liq.wa.gov or the Department of Health website at www.doh.wa.gov. Posted by Inga Manskopf at 2:47 PM Labels: I-502, medical marijuana, Washington State Liquor Board https://lcb.app.box.com/draft-recommendations https://www.scribd.com/doc/172873835/...ecommendations
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10-16-2013, 04:59 PM	#2
yortbogey To Have More ... Desire Less Join Date: Sep 2008 Posts: 10,983	its WA states effort to LUMP medical and recreational ...TOGETHER so EVERYONE must BUY from state stores.... medical patients will never be able to afford the 25% price hike.... this is bound to have backlash.... i502 was meant to stay clear of ALL existing Medical Cannabis laws in WA the state is back pedaling .... why..... $$$$$$$$$$$$$ so the people will rebuttal..... __________________ i got a river for a soul... Darlin' I'm a nightmare... Dressed like a daydream~~~
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10-16-2013, 05:16 PM	#3
JamesFarmer Member Join Date: Apr 2012 Posts: 375	Sorry pasting the text didn't work. Follow the link for the full text. I stumbled across one of the agencies draft recommendations posted online. Unfortunately I lost the link and have not been able to find it again. If anyone comes across the link please post it here. The recommendations were not favorable. They suggested that 502 stores would satisfy the "safe access" need for medical patients and would eliminate the need for the provisions in RCW69.51A that allow personal growing and possession of a 60 day supply. If these recommendations many of us will loose access to legal affordable meds. For myself: over time I have managed to pull together the gear to grow my own meds. My current cost is around $2-3 a gram plus my time. If the recommendations become law I will be forced to drive 75-130miles twice a month to pay (approx) $12.50 a gram. SORRY! I CANNOT AFFORD IT! Current rules have given us safe, legal and affordable access to meds. The proposed changes will take that away.
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10-17-2013, 04:10 PM	#6
BigSteve Member Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Spokane Posts: 167	5 grams a day X 365 days a year = 1825 grams a year consumed by me. I can see why they want my business. __________________ Please check my current grow journal!
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10-16-2013, 05:33 PM	#4
JamesFarmer Member Join Date: Apr 2012 Posts: 375	Another loss: Today I can choose from a vast selection of strains. I favor high CBD strains as they are most effective for me. If I am forced to buy my meds from a recreational store will I have that choice?
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10-16-2013, 06:49 PM	#5
JamesFarmer Member Join Date: Apr 2012 Posts: 375	I tried posting a comment to the article linked above. After going through the process I received the message: Your post will be visible after approval. Yah right....
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10-23-2013, 08:49 PM	#8
JamesFarmer Member Join Date: Apr 2012 Posts: 375	In case you missed the links to LCB & DOH recommended rule changes: https://lcb.app.box.com/draft-recommendations https://www.scribd.com/doc/172873835/...ecommendations
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10-30-2013, 09:47 PM	#9
HawaiianStylie Newbie Join Date: Jul 2008 Posts: 6	After reading those recommendations, I am extremely disappointed. I have been very impressed with the way that MMJ has been progressing. It seems like there is a lot of forward progress being made in the industry. The standards for most of the medicine that I have seen we're top-notch. After reading the recommendations it seems that the State Liquor Department is going to cripple the progress being made in the Medical Marijuana industry.
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