[zachrockbadenof]

in 40+ yrs of tokin, never had anything approaching 'trip-weed'... still looking...

just started some golden tiger, we r approx. 90 days into the grow (50day veggin, 40 into flower) 3 seeds sowed, only 1 lady... sharing 3000watts with other ladies... maybe the golden toger will be it... here's hoping

[orfeas]

G' day TB!
I've been meaning to ask you (for sometime now) to allow for some inconsistancy/vagueness in my writing due to my not being a native speaker nor living in an English speaking country.
Therefore, next time you sense a hint of accusation/offence in my posts, please think twice as I've gone way off attacking dispositions since quite a while now...

As for ferts, I take it for self-evident that manure IS fertilizer and I tend to apply it only when the soil hasn't been self fertilized as C.C. very explicitly outlines it.
I know an old fart who's been cultivating(to make a buck) for fifty years now without using any ferts nor compost and has had excellent crops. Again, as C.C. mentioned all he does is leaving his plants in the ground and just plows right after harvest.
I suppose the old man has never heard of Fukuoka but paradoxically enough he's been applying his philosophy
Bottom line, score of the game: Fukuoka vs Monsando = 1-0! (if not more goals!)

[yoss33]

Yesterday I tried the first immature samples of the Zamaldelica tree that I have dying in the beginning of flowering. It already has some resin and while about 4 times less potent than what I consider good potency, it's getting me high. As a disclaimer for the following lines, I'd like to note that I'm currently used to smoking pure Haze and everything feels heavy and dirty after it.
The high is not bad, though I hope it gets better with maturing and curing. It is focused and alert, cold blooded, not emotional at all. I expected it to be more clear, with visual shapness, but while there's lots of adrenaline in it, there's also some fuzziness. It is not euphoric, it even kills the euphoria of Haze smoked before that. Yet, it is not paranoid, just cold trippy staring-at-the-wall type. It has the specific african body feeling - body buzz/vibration/high-frequency tension. What impressed me was the warm blood rush in the head - I felt my whole head red, warm, and of higher pressure for the first 15 minutes. It wasn't an uncomfortable feeling though, it was something like the rush of poppers. It reminded me of the description of Zamal x Thai that another member here, VanVulpen, described as putting a helmet. I'll wait before taking new samples as it definitely needs to produce more resin in order to become really trippy and develop that "scary" feeling.

[ThaiBliss]

Orfeas,

I appreciate you taking the extra effort to make contributions on this thread in a language that is not your native tongue. Thank you very much.

Yoss33 -I am pleased to hear that you are finding that the early demised Zamaldelica is worth smoking, tasty, and strong enough to show its character. Sounds promising. I'm getting the impression that it seems a bit trance like. At your thread, Zamaldelica grow outdoors at 44 * N, I read about the taste. My seedlings smell sweet carrot, ZD1, and spicy carrot, ZD2, but when I rub the stems, I smell lemon menthol and a medicine smell that almost makes me nauseous, especially the ZD1. I get a strong reaction to the smell, but I also get a strong reaction from the sour catpiss aroma from Thai and I love it as I associate it with power.



Your descriptions clearly show your love for Haze, even after you have been smoking it regularly for almost a year. Reading this is thrilling for me as I have a Haze dominant plant, SAGE x Purple Haze Thai, more than half way finished. I'm LOVING the aromas right now. Every day I race home from work to catch a few minutes with it before the lights go off. In the mornings, the aromas lean towards the sweet and fruity. In the evenings they turn sharper and spicier. I can't wait to try it.

Thanks for your updates at this thread,

ThaiBliss

[Rory Borealis]

Originally Posted by ThaiBliss

My fertilizer mixes include bird guano, aged fish meal, seaweed, and even green alfalfa pellets in the soil. I believe anything is fertilizer that can burn the plant from excess nutrient salts.


ThaiBliss

ThaiBliss,

Is your seabird guano hign nitrogen or high phosphorus? I use high phosphorous Indonesian guano and I notice that I get better results from my ACE sativas when I reduce dosage to 1 teaspoon per gallon (during flowering) when used in a tea with worm castings and molasses. the soil itself is plain potting soil with nothing else added except the tea.

[ThaiBliss]

Originally Posted by Rory Borealis

ThaiBliss,

Is your seabird guano hign nitrogen or high phosphorus? I use high phosphorous Indonesian guano and I notice that I get better results from my ACE sativas when I reduce dosage to 1 teaspoon per gallon (during flowering) when used in a tea with worm castings and molasses. the soil itself is plain potting soil with nothing else added except the tea.

Rory,

The bird guano I use is for phosphorous. N-P-K = 0-8-1 I use tiny amounts with tiny amounts of fertilizers from others sources. I try to use lots of different sources so I won't lack micro or trace nutrients, for instance, soybean meal, kelp, aged fish emulsion, humic acid, and a few different commercial blends. The bird guano helps keep the nitrogen low because most commercial blends have more nitrogen than what I prefer.

I'm trying to get as close as I can to organic hydroponic, but I'm not an absolute purist. I grow in hydroton to avoid spider mite and thrip infestations which are rampant in our area. I wish I was successful at soil indoor, but I have spent many years and lots of money failing at it.

Here are a couple of plants from my other grow, link below, that are more than half way done. I believe that if the older big fan leaves are not turning yellow and falling off, then I am over fertilizing nitrogen. Even the greener buds and leaves look a little bleached out by the HPS and MH lights in this picture.



ThaiBliss



ThaiBliss

[ThaiBliss]

Originally Posted by ThaiBliss

ThaiBliss

Just so you don't think that there aren't any buds:







It stinks good in there!




ThaiBliss

[crazyfool*]

looks real good TB....

when I ordered seeds, I was beetween malawii and zamadelica.....when my malawii beans arrived I was thrilled, and now after reading some of your Zamal quotes, I´m not quite sure I made the right choice =/ ..... man, to tell ya the truth, I really wish I had Time and space to grow out the whole ACE catalog... some mighty strains they have

I sttill am thrilled about the malawiis, but i guess |I will have to find a way for these zamal genetics to find their way to my grow!

[MostlyMe]

Sorry if I am intruding in this thread too much, but would the following general characterizations be accurate?

* African sativa's have an aggressive, overwhelming, racy high
* South-American sativa's have a friendly, mild, happy high
* Thai sativa's have a clear, energetic high

Feel free to correct me, or add adjectives

[ThaiBliss]

Originally Posted by MostlyMe

Sorry if I am intruding in this thread too much, but would the following general characterizations be accurate?

* African sativa's have an aggressive, overwhelming, racy high
* South-American sativa's have a friendly, mild, happy high
* Thai sativa's have a clear, energetic high

Feel free to correct me, or add adjectives

MostlyMe,

Please don't feel like you are intruding. I like seeing people interested in what I'm interested in. That is my whole purpose being here.

I hope others will chime in because I have little experience with African sativas. I have quite a bit with Colombian, and a fair amount with Thai. As always, there are variations but here are my generalities for the experiences that I have had.

Colombian - I would never call the strongest ones mild. I have had extremely potent bud from there. I have also had weak buds. The weak ones seemed to make me tired, but the strong ones were relaxing without being sleepy, dreamy, euphoric, and trippy. The trippier ones were different than Thai trippy. More like half trippy, half drunken. Not really inducing that "profound" feeling. I can't really think of a better description than drunken, though it deserves better. Most buds were sweet and earthy. Some were more spicy incenses and more cerebral, less drunken, in effect.

Thai - All the Thai Sticks I ever smoked were extremely powerful, long lasting, trippy, and profound. Always had a distinct delayed reaction. It would trick people into smoking too much. I often had smoked joints of top Colombian between 3 friends, but never in my life smoked so much Thai. One hit could last 6 hours. That is how we often smoked it, taking on big hit and holding deep like it was precious. It was, because we only got it about once a year. Probably never had smoked more than 3 or 4. Would never have a desire to. Extreme sensitivity to the surroundings, and energetic to a fault. Often jittery and paranoia inducing for the first hour or more. Many regular smokers did not like it at all. The smells were spicy, peppery, sour, and citrus rind. Makes you want to retract your nose quickly after a good sniff.

African - I've only grown a few Africans. The first was from Kenya, I think. I grew it outside, and it was weak. I believe it may have petered out before it got fully ripe. Bangi Haze was very nice. It is the kind of weed, like Mexican, that I used to look down upon when I was holding good Colombian. This kind is rare around here now, and I appreciate it much more. In fact, I love it. Energetic, euphoric, and happy weed. Irie is the best description that I can come up with. This weed makes me a better person. I'm not sure how much is from the African Congo side, or the Nepalese side. If it were stronger, I might leave my feet and float around.

Hope this helps. I'd love to hear other people's experiences. I don't think two people always have the same reactions to the same weed.

Peace,

ThaiBliss