[idiit]

we need dubi to chime in here on "thai effects" vs "african effects". i've read most of his older posts and he described per my recollection the thais as cold and africans as warm. he seemed to favor the african's psychoactivity over the thai's (again per my drugged out abused memory banks ). the zamaldelica hybrid offers up many trippy high effects possibilities.

take your pick, clone and go including working your favorite zamaldelica phenotypes. from personal experience the frosty malawi with strong meao thai influence ( recessive and fucking awesome) pheno dramatically changes for the best as it ages so attention needs to be paid to cure time per smoke effects.

[Perpetual Nooch]

I've been wanting to get my hands on these beans for some time. Tried a couple times to order them but never arrived.

I'll be keeping my eye on this thread.

[ThaiBliss]

Originally Posted by idiit

we need dubi to chime in here on "thai effects" vs "african effects". i've read most of his older posts and he described per my recollection the thais as cold and africans as warm. he seemed to favor the african's psychoactivity over the thai's (again per my drugged out abused memory banks ). the zamaldelica hybrid offers up many trippy high effects possibilities.

take your pick, clone and go including working your favorite zamaldelica phenotypes. from personal experience the frosty malawi with strong meao thai influence ( recessive and fucking awesome) pheno dramatically changes for the best as it ages so attention needs to be paid to cure time per smoke effects.

Greetings,

I'm hoping that the Zamaldelica has the "warm" effect in there, if that correlates to what I think of as "euphoria". I would definitely agree that the Thai weed that I have smoked is more pure trippy, clear, alert, and with hyper sensitivity to the surroundings than most weeds, and without much euphoria.

So far, I just don't get the love for Golden Tiger/Malawi. I'm really hoping that I don't feel the stupefying effect in Zamaldelica that I had with Golden Tiger. Not that there is anything wrong with that type of weed, but it is not my preference. I went back and looked at my pictures when I grew it, and I let it get really ripe. I have to try it again, and harvest it earlier, because so many people report excellent results. I probably just screwed it up, as I am definitely in the minority opinion.

I'll post some pictures, hopefully this weekend. Not that there has been much progress, but because they are my babies, and I want to share. Hopefully, Dubi has the time to come by with his observations, and if he can tell towards which parents my seedlings lean. For now, I want to flower the Zamal and Thai looking ones.

Idiit - After I post some more pictures, I hope you will be able to identify what parents that the seedlings appear to lean towards. Thanks in advance.

Peace,

ThaiBliss

[idiit]

Idiit - After I post some more pictures, I hope you will be able to identify what parents that the seedlings appear to lean towards. Thanks in advance.

^ hopefully we'll get a group collaboration on this one .

[Terpene]

Your description of pure haze effects are practically spot on, though I don't see nearly as much fear on blast off as you're talking about. Hazes are generally a little warmer than that. Thai additions might cause the ramping up effect. Though thais are usually very clear, very aware. Odds are, your haze was a thai haze or had thai influences.

Africans are, for lack of a better term - scary. The gut-tightening, fear-inducing, ramping up effect comes on fast and hard. Depending on location, africans I've smoked have been anywhere from soaring paralysis (malawi) to racy and paranoia inducing (durban). Zamal (or what zamal I got to experience in the various phenos of Zamaldelica) is a bit more trippy, a bit more "hallucinogenic" and decently speedy.

Zamaldelica will not be warm and fuzzy. I am not the only one to think so, another member here posted it was a cold and semi-terrifying experience. Most of the people I know who have tried it consider it all-out trip cannabis and don't like smoking it at night because of it's intensity. It will totally distort reality like your haze though. It sounds awful, but if you're looking for maximum sativa highness (in 3 different directions - thai / malawi / zamal ), I don't think you can do better than this line. You'll see what I mean soon enough!

[ThaiBliss]

Terpene,

Thanks for chiming in. Your descriptions are one of the main reasons for me deciding to grow this strain. I've quoted you in the first post. I do not intend to find an everyday smoking weed for going on picnics. I would love Bangi Haze for that. If Bangi is an example of the warm African weed, then I think it's great. I'm hoping for a once in a while sky diving type of adventure with Zamaldelica. Some do report euphoria on it, and it appears that there may be various sisters with different effects, but all extreme. I'm glad to hear it.

Thanks Terpene, and everyone else for helping me to keep enthusiastic about this grow. This thread seems to be attracting a bunch of long time respected ACE fans/contributors, and I appreciate hearing everyone's observations.




Speaking of enthusiasm, I've got to put in a plug for the SAGE x Golden Tiger and SAGE x Purple Haze Thai grow. The buds are really coming on nicely now. I'll be taking some pictures of those this weekend also. Terpene, have you gotten a nose full of Purple Haze Thai? Wow! I can't wait to smoke that. I'm all about the Haze and Thai.

Future African Fan,

ThaiBliss

[Terpene]

I'm glad I'm not scaring you away from the Zamaldelica. My description of "the fear" sometimes scares people away from it, which is probably better, its for those seeking truly intense smoke. Its easy to grow, yields well and is one of the few strains that I've run where the general consensus is "oh you're smoking THAT right now?? pssh, good luck, we'll see you on the other side!"

Dubi did a real good job on his purple haze thai selection. The Ace pure purple haze puts you in a haze, very dreamy and psychedelic. Except for the minor sandalwood addition, it almost exactly replicates the blackberry brandy smell of the 26 week pure purple haze I ran, but its much faster in flower, a little more energetic and clearer from the thai addition.

[ThaiBliss]

O.K., I could not wait to post my pictures. I'm like a kid in a candy store.

I am only posting the two that I have decided to grow if female. The first is ZD1, which I have come to believe is the most Zamal looking one. I'm only basing this on pictures available in ICMAG. Please contradict me if you disagree. I would not take it as rude, I would consider it very helpful.

The first trait I'd like to show is the slightly alternate branching on the second node. It is a fairly lanky one with one of the longer internode lengths. It also has internodes that seem to keep growing and stretching. They have a slight bow to them which makes them look rubbery. I'm not going to test it. Please pardon the out of focus pic, but this turned out the best one to show the very slight alternate branch pattern at an exceedingly early age:




This individual is also the lightest in color, and by far the most sensitive to over fertilization. I let it dry out until the leaves drooped a bit, and it has not looked the same since. It is the least robust individual. This is the exact same trait that my freakishly good Haze had. I don't like it, but if this is a sign of maximum power, then I can learn to love it. Here is a burned leaf:




This picture is to show how lanky it is:



The last picture is an overall view from above:





ThaiBliss

[ThaiBliss]

The second one, ZD2, is very robust, similar to my Golden Tigers I grew. I really have no idea if it is Thai leaning. I have not seen many good close up pictures of Meao Thai. It is a little more lanky that what I remember from Golden Tiger. What do you think it looks like?

There were several that looked like this one, but this is the one with the skinniest leaves and most horizontal branching. Hopefully, these are Meao Thai traits. Notice the almost perfectly horizontal branches on the first node:



Here are some more pictures to get an overall sense of the ZD2 plant:





Happy Growing,

ThaiBliss

[orfeas]

Pardon me asking TB!
What makes some of them leaves have this tendancy of curling upwards?