Had idea to throw off tracking of power consumption - Grow Room Safety - International Cannagraphic Magazine Forums

heatherlonglee · 09-30-2013, 09:42 PM

I use it for comfort. Just realized what it could do though. I use a small bedroom heater in my bathroom when I take a shower. 1500 watts going on and off at random times during the day could cause problems with tracking consumption. You take showers at all times of day. That big wattage going on at random times for 10-25 minutes with no real pattern, sometimes quick morning shower, another day pm shower for a night out. The randomness of life with make it a easy way to use. Setting the heater on a setting that makes it turn on and off a few times while showering, may be best. I only have the heater on 15 minutes at a time cycling on and off 2-3 times, on average I'd say. I do that naturally once or twice a day sometimes lights on sometimes lights off times =)

dank.frank · 09-30-2013, 09:55 PM

Ummm...or a washer and dryer...or a stove...or a large tv / entertainment system...or a gaming desktop computer, or a server station, or central heating / AC, or...

The reality is...there are many things that use large amounts of power. However, the key is staying within a reasonable range of your house size / neighbors. If all your community has similarly sized homes, you assume the power usage will be within a given range per sq footage / weather conditions, etc. It's when your power usage is 3x that of your surroundings that throws up the first red flag - not exactly how much of it you are using or in what intervals.

dank.Frank

wantaknow · 09-30-2013, 10:07 PM

not if you have a smart meter ,there damn capibility is awsome ,and sucks at the same time ,they have ability to know what smart machine is running ie new washer and dryers anything digital ,and anilog too ,i have one next door that is used and can read our wifi ,if you have a smart phone or tv go wrap some brass screen around the pole and meter so it cant recieve wifi and watch your pc and smart phone ,mine gone through a reboot over and over and the tv shuts down ,pull the screen off and this stops ?

heatherlonglee · 09-30-2013, 10:08 PM

Well Dank.Frank some of those use large wattages and could possibly turn on and off every 3-5 minutes or so. My idea was more about a large draw going on and off quickly (every couple minutes) and randomly.

watts · 09-30-2013, 10:27 PM

smart meters can not tell the difference between a 3000 watt dryer and a 3000 watt oven. The device you are powering has to be "smart-ready" before they can see what's running exactly. Technically this feature is used to monitor your power/energy usage on new "smart appliances"

GMT · 09-30-2013, 11:04 PM

when they put mine in they asked i unplug the very old tv that was turned off in another room. could see all devices plugged in and what they were. scared me senseless. Now I expect a visit anytime.

leepy · 09-30-2013, 11:12 PM

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Originally Posted by heatherlonglee

I use it for comfort. Just realized what it could do though. I use a small bedroom heater in my bathroom when I take a shower. 1500 watts going on and off at random times during the day could cause problems with tracking consumption. You take showers at all times of day. That big wattage going on at random times for 10-25 minutes with no real pattern, sometimes quick morning shower, another day pm shower for a night out. The randomness of life with make it a easy way to use. Setting the heater on a setting that makes it turn on and off a few times while showering, may be best. I only have the heater on 15 minutes at a time cycling on and off 2-3 times, on average I'd say. I do that naturally once or twice a day sometimes lights on sometimes lights off times =)

mucka its not a good idea using a heater in your bathroom m8

siftedunity · 09-30-2013, 11:28 PM

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Originally Posted by leepy

mucka its not a good idea using a heater in your bathroom m8

ive seen so many heaters on bathroom walls its unreal.

wantaknow · 10-01-2013, 02:49 AM

when i grow with my hydro system ,the power at my house will go off then back on and i will have a small power spike that will make my controler bucket relays contacts stick and it will flood the room or wont flood athe buckets at all just depends what cycle its on when the bullet comes in ,so to prevent this i use a battery backup that is between the pug in and my bucket power in ,it works well ,this does not happen when my small grow room is not being used ,the smart meter is on the house that is next to me less than 60 ft away,i tell you that thing is way smarter than you are lead to belive ,better safe than sorry,stay safe all

FreedomFightr · 10-01-2013, 02:57 AM

Just run 2 Bloom rooms on a flip, then you have constant power draw and dont have to worry about them seeing the 12/12 schedule that is a dead give away.

09-30-2013, 09:42 PM	#1
heatherlonglee Member Join Date: May 2011 Location: Denver, Colorado Posts: 162	Had idea to throw off tracking of power consumption I use it for comfort. Just realized what it could do though. I use a small bedroom heater in my bathroom when I take a shower. 1500 watts going on and off at random times during the day could cause problems with tracking consumption. You take showers at all times of day. That big wattage going on at random times for 10-25 minutes with no real pattern, sometimes quick morning shower, another day pm shower for a night out. The randomness of life with make it a easy way to use. Setting the heater on a setting that makes it turn on and off a few times while showering, may be best. I only have the heater on 15 minutes at a time cycling on and off 2-3 times, on average I'd say. I do that naturally once or twice a day sometimes lights on sometimes lights off times =) __________________ If I take time to answer a question regarding your post, OP; I demand a rating + or - your choice. I take time to answer with spell check and proof reading. If my post was helpful or not, say so please. Female gardener. Currently growing Weed. I really miss the negative rating! Yeah I would bust a fool up back in the day; negative rep!
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dank.frank ef.yu.se.ka.e.em Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: hiding in plain sight Posts: 10,033	Ummm...or a washer and dryer...or a stove...or a large tv / entertainment system...or a gaming desktop computer, or a server station, or central heating / AC, or... The reality is...there are many things that use large amounts of power. However, the key is staying within a reasonable range of your house size / neighbors. If all your community has similarly sized homes, you assume the power usage will be within a given range per sq footage / weather conditions, etc. It's when your power usage is 3x that of your surroundings that throws up the first red flag - not exactly how much of it you are using or in what intervals. dank.Frank __________________ https://www.icmag.com/ic/showthread.php?t=258168 Bunch of fake ass neo-capitalists masquerading as counter culture cannabis enthusiasts with their thinly veiled self-justifications catering to the morally ambiguous for the sake of the ALL MIGHTY DOLLAR
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wantaknow ruger 500 Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: usa Posts: 2,100	not if you have a smart meter ,there damn capibility is awsome ,and sucks at the same time ,they have ability to know what smart machine is running ie new washer and dryers anything digital ,and anilog too ,i have one next door that is used and can read our wifi ,if you have a smart phone or tv go wrap some brass screen around the pole and meter so it cant recieve wifi and watch your pc and smart phone ,mine gone through a reboot over and over and the tv shuts down ,pull the screen off and this stops ? __________________ Free leonard peltier now,
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09-30-2013, 10:08 PM	#4
heatherlonglee Member Join Date: May 2011 Location: Denver, Colorado Posts: 162	Well Dank.Frank some of those use large wattages and could possibly turn on and off every 3-5 minutes or so. My idea was more about a large draw going on and off quickly (every couple minutes) and randomly. __________________ If I take time to answer a question regarding your post, OP; I demand a rating + or - your choice. I take time to answer with spell check and proof reading. If my post was helpful or not, say so please. Female gardener. Currently growing Weed. I really miss the negative rating! Yeah I would bust a fool up back in the day; negative rep!
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09-30-2013, 10:27 PM	#5
watts ohms Join Date: Dec 2011 Posts: 1,788	smart meters can not tell the difference between a 3000 watt dryer and a 3000 watt oven. The device you are powering has to be "smart-ready" before they can see what's running exactly. Technically this feature is used to monitor your power/energy usage on new "smart appliances"
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09-30-2013, 11:04 PM	#6
GMT I am, therefore I think Join Date: May 2004 Location: Wonderland Posts: 5,964	when they put mine in they asked i unplug the very old tv that was turned off in another room. could see all devices plugged in and what they were. scared me senseless. Now I expect a visit anytime.
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10-01-2013, 02:49 AM	#9
wantaknow ruger 500 Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: usa Posts: 2,100	when i grow with my hydro system ,the power at my house will go off then back on and i will have a small power spike that will make my controler bucket relays contacts stick and it will flood the room or wont flood athe buckets at all just depends what cycle its on when the bullet comes in ,so to prevent this i use a battery backup that is between the pug in and my bucket power in ,it works well ,this does not happen when my small grow room is not being used ,the smart meter is on the house that is next to me less than 60 ft away,i tell you that thing is way smarter than you are lead to belive ,better safe than sorry,stay safe all __________________ Free leonard peltier now, Last edited by wantaknow; 10-01-2013 at 03:09 AM..
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10-01-2013, 02:57 AM	#10
FreedomFightr Member Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: Nibiru Posts: 636	Just run 2 Bloom rooms on a flip, then you have constant power draw and dont have to worry about them seeing the 12/12 schedule that is a dead give away.
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