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Old 09-27-2013, 08:06 PM #1
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Who Wants Marijuana To Remain Illegal?

Who Wants Marijuana To Remain Illegal?
Michael Roseff 9/26/2013
Police unions, private prison corporations, alcohol and beer companies, pharmaceutical companies, and prison guard unions are said to be in the top five in terms of lobbying and paying lawmakers to keep marijuana illegal. Hey, this is DEMOCRACY at work. This is the best system on earth, right? This is the system the U.S. government tells us it wants for Libya, Syria, Iraq, Afghanistan, etc.
If some foreign government through its politics forbids women from walking around without burkas on, that is a sign of its tyranny, U.S. officials tell us. The U.S. Department of State wrote in this respect about “the Taliban war on Afghanistan’s women…” and its “oppressive regime”. But if the existing U.S. system forbids someone from using marijuana or some other drug, this is not infringing rights and it’s not oppressive.
These contradictions, these poses, these false rationales, these hypocrisies arise again and again, permeating the entire society, for a simple reason. The government is not based on any consistent basis of justice and rights. These two-faced statements are proof that government has no foundation in rights, never has had such a foundation, and wasn’t established with such a foundation. The Bill of Rights was a compromise and an afterthought grafted onto a document (the Constitution) whose purpose was entirely that of setting up a control and command structure that did not, would not and could not tolerate a basic right like that of secession, because that would shatter the government whose aim that document was to establish.
There are no moral-sounding statements made by the current occupant of the White House that can be assumed to be or are correlated with the actual moral sentiments of that occupant, simply because he leads an institution that has no consistent basis or relation to justice and rights. When he orders a drone strike that kills civilians, he demonstrates this fact. You or I could not do this without being brought up for murder. But in this hallowed democracy, our vote makes this legal. This simple fact shows that democracy has no basis in justice and rights. It is typically used for the purpose of suppressing the rights of any minority on the losing side of any issue that is voted upon.
This includes users of those drugs that have been made illegal.

https://www.lewrockwell.com/lrc-blog/...emain-illegal/
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why do they continue to refer to the US as a democracy?

to impose oppression till we all wring our hands in despair while covertly destroying freedoms outlined in the constitution and bill of rights.

freedom lies within the framework of the REPUBLIC wrested from the king.

laws create classes, elevating one person above another when in reality we are equals.

UN is a government for governments, not 'of the people'.
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Marijuna should remain tax free, if you have to pay taxes that item is neither free or legal.

We should be pushing for total decriminalization.
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Hey this article forgot the 6th group: cash croppers who have gotten used to the exhorbitantly steep prices that they can command for the harvest, and who don't want to have to rethink their business plan.
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... never has had such a foundation, and wasn’t established with such a foundation. The Bill of Rights was a compromise and an afterthought grafted onto a document (the Constitution) whose purpose was entirely that of setting up a control and command structure that did not, would not and could not tolerate a basic right like that of secession, because that would shatter the government whose aim that document was to establish.
This guy is completely devoid of historical accuracy here. The Bill of Rights was well more than an after thought. The fear of some founding fathers such as George Mason was that enumerating a select list of rights would lead some to conclude that those were the only rights. The spirit of the US Constitution, even with its glaring flaw of slavery, is still the most powerful recognition of individual rights in the human history.

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"To take from one, because it is thought that his own industry and that of his father's has acquired too much, in order to spare to others, who, or whose fathers have not exercised equal industry and skill, is to violate arbitrarily the first principle of association -- the guarantee to every one of a free exercise of his industry, and the fruits acquired by it." ~Thomas Jefferson

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if our founding fathers were here right now they would lead the revolution ,then they would say how the hell did you let this happen?!,we all went into debt ,from the co store ,
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Just think of all the jobs gone away if weed was legalized. LEO, construction jobs on new prisions, wardens and prison guards, judges, lawyers and jail jobs. I think CO and Washington state are moving in the right direction.
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Hey this article forgot the 6th group: cash croppers who have gotten used to the exhorbitantly steep prices that they can command for the harvest, and who don't want to have to rethink their business plan.
Hush, you must know people I don't. As for giving to government coffers to keep weed illegal, I'd say TESTING companies and REHAB facilities are next inline. The guys who risk their freedom to supply cannabis to the black market, don't seem to hire lobbyists but they do hire defense attorneys. I wonder how that union is voting (crim defense lawyers)?

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"To take from one, because it is thought that his own industry and that of his father's has acquired too much, in order to spare to others, who, or whose fathers have not exercised equal industry and skill, is to violate arbitrarily the first principle of association -- the guarantee to every one of a free exercise of his industry, and the fruits acquired by it." ~Thomas Jefferson

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Old 09-27-2013, 09:47 PM #9
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Hush, you must know people I don't.
No, fortunately I don't actually *know* any of the people who fall in this category, but they have made themselves known here (and other cannabis forums too) in the recent past on several threads that have to do with cannabis laws. Most of those threads have been locked and/or deleted since then, but the sad truth is, there are people who proudly admit that they are against legalizing it because it will cause them to lose money.

You can't make this shit up.
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Someone saying "I don't ever want legalized and don't give a shit what you think." may have already reached the point of knowing that plants can't be legal or illegal, just as your life can't be legal or illegal.

Those who would seek to legislate / regulate their neighbors will wake to find a jailer staring them in the mirror.

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