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Old 09-26-2013, 03:59 AM #21
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Dude....I was you thirty plus years ago.

You can do both. If you keep your priorities straight.

Get your schooling done. That...even if you never use it...but you will...at least gives you something to fall back on. Next year, find corners to cut....you already have one spot you know paid off. Replant that. If you have the time, find another. But school comes first.

Then, after you graduate, go crazy, see if you have what it takes.

Cream rises to the top. Great weed will always be in demand....even in a flooded market. None of us know what will happen down the road....Will it ever be legal? What the market will look like ...then. Don't worry about it.

You pulled two lbs. dude...good for you. Great job. Seriously.

But it ain't always like that. In your calculations...there are some abstract numbers your not seeing....Yet.

That's not real life. Your young and a tad bit nieve.

I kinda envy you.

What ever path you choose. Good luck.

this guy is on the money. do both. if the outdoor fucks up, you will still have your education and visa versa. be smart and leave
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You'd be putting yourself at the top of a rollover pyramid made up of people you don't even know yet. Sure they'll look out for you though.
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Dude....I was you thirty plus years ago.

You can do both. If you keep your priorities straight.

Get your schooling done. That...even if you never use it...but you will...at least gives you something to fall back on. Next year, find corners to cut....you already have one spot you know paid off. Replant that. If you have the time, find another. But school comes first.

Then, after you graduate, go crazy, see if you have what it takes.

Cream rises to the top. Great weed will always be in demand....even in a flooded market. None of us know what will happen down the road....Will it ever be legal? What the market will look like ...then. Don't worry about it.

You pulled two lbs. dude...good for you. Great job. Seriously.

But it ain't always like that. In your calculations...there are some abstract numbers your not seeing....Yet.

That's not real life. Your young and a tad bit nieve.

I kinda envy you.

What ever path you choose. Good luck.
words of wisdom... if America shut down tomorrow weed would be one of the top things in value to trade or bargain, never should It lose it's value completely unless fully legalized and then taken over by millionaires with factories...

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You'd be putting yourself at the top of a rollover pyramid made up of people you don't even know yet. Sure they'll look out for you though.
elaborate please? I don't understand...
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Hauling literal tons of soil and amendments miles into remote areas while covertly dodging watchful eyes will definitely give you the Xfactor.
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If you're worried about your degree getting you a job. You should be. You'll need a masters after your business degree for it to mean much. You could always tack on an accounting degree and go for your CPA. There is only going to be more and more accounting work as taxes increase and businesses and individuals have to deal with new and changing healthcare laws.

Really want to have a locked down job? Switch, right now, to pre-med and then just continue for a couple more years in grad school . If you can become an RN you will have multiple job offers out of school and be able to work anywhere. Only problem, drug testing when things go missing sometimes.

You might want to re-think some things. Someone mentioned doing indoor to supplement your guerrilla grow income, and you said you don't know the protocols. Well you're here on ICmag aren't you? Read and learn. If you want to start plants indoors, you'll need to at least have a basic veg room set up. you might want to keep mothers and run clones so you can continuously put out plants. Think 50 per week for 8 weeks. Spreads out the work and uses less light at once than doing 200 at a time would. You could even run photoperiod sensitive plants, veg clones inside for 4 weeks or so at 24/0, and then shift them outside, shocking them into flowering, and staggering your harvests.

Keep in mind, you're not going to master it right away. You'll want to experiment with drying techniques, harvesting, pruning, spacing, hole size, nutrient, etc. One of the benefits of running a lot of plants is that you can have a 'safety' group, that has known and proven variables, and then a few test groups that have some factors changed up so you know what to do more of the next season. Many oldtimer guerrilla growers I've spoken with also have a habit of breeding their own seed stock in order to produce new seeds every year producing plants that are better acclimatized to the area over time.
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Old 09-27-2013, 05:14 AM #28
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Hauling literal tons of soil and amendments miles into remote areas while covertly dodging watchful eyes will definitely give you the Xfactor.
adrenaline junky, this season was just a eye opener on life in actuality for some reason... maybe it's my calling...

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If you're worried about your degree getting you a job. You should be. You'll need a masters after your business degree for it to mean much. You could always tack on an accounting degree and go for your CPA. There is only going to be more and more accounting work as taxes increase and businesses and individuals have to deal with new and changing healthcare laws.

Really want to have a locked down job? Switch, right now, to pre-med and then just continue for a couple more years in grad school . If you can become an RN you will have multiple job offers out of school and be able to work anywhere. Only problem, drug testing when things go missing sometimes.

You might want to re-think some things. Someone mentioned doing indoor to supplement your guerrilla grow income, and you said you don't know the protocols. Well you're here on ICmag aren't you? Read and learn. If you want to start plants indoors, you'll need to at least have a basic veg room set up. you might want to keep mothers and run clones so you can continuously put out plants. Think 50 per week for 8 weeks. Spreads out the work and uses less light at once than doing 200 at a time would. You could even run photoperiod sensitive plants, veg clones inside for 4 weeks or so at 24/0, and then shift them outside, shocking them into flowering, and staggering your harvests.

Keep in mind, you're not going to master it right away. You'll want to experiment with drying techniques, harvesting, pruning, spacing, hole size, nutrient, etc. One of the benefits of running a lot of plants is that you can have a 'safety' group, that has known and proven variables, and then a few test groups that have some factors changed up so you know what to do more of the next season. Many oldtimer guerrilla growers I've spoken with also have a habit of breeding their own seed stock in order to produce new seeds every year producing plants that are better acclimatized to the area over time.
I really appreciate the extensive advice, before posting this I was going to do so on another site. after reading all answers I really am surprised how much old time wisdom is lurking and happy I did so here. but my honest question is... how much does a profitable indoor setup cost? meaning to get my completely private owned place with nobody else and a big enough setup to make good profit every 2-3 months on a 10,000$ limit... I already have my own place at school but sure isn't capable of pulling out harvests.. I would think I have to get at least 3-4 big lamps, cost of electric until I can starting turning profit to keep paying for the place? just really paranoid when it comes to my name being attached to the place .. but in all honestly I feel I am screwing myself over for the long run.....paying for school for a few more years not having a clue what i'm going to do, then grad school to make it even worth anything? then having school loan debt for years upon years after grad..hell no probably not... while I could possibly drop-out now, keep a normal scale job also while keeping a full outdoor operation going and possibly indoor start and finish somewhere just for the winter season? sorry if I seem to spill all of this out, mid life crisis?
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I would start preparing plots and making seeds now.
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elaborate please? I don't understand...
A cause or other people's lives may be worth sacrificing your life or freedom. money never is, in my opinion. You will need to have people to sell 50 pounds. Each one of those people is more interested in maintaining their own life and freedom than they are in preserving yours. Worse still, they are likely to be offered the opportunity to trade yours for theirs.

That doesn't mean the path you are on makes any sense either. The standard advice to someone contemplating quitting college used to be that you may as well stay in school and get your degree and then pursue your dreams. That made sense when it was possible to put yourself through school while working 20 hours a week and borrowing a few thousand dollars. That really doesn't make sense now that people are finishing with crushing debt loads.

You suggested you are failing at school because of the demands of your 2 pound harvest. College ain't that hard. I'm not sure you have a clear idea of what it will take to increase your harvest by 25 times. Not just the additional labor and expense, but depending on the harvest to sustain your life is way different than growing a few plants on a lark.

Everybody thinks the hobby they love would make a fantastic career. The vast majority of those who make the transition are disappointed. OTOH, I've followed my dreams into 3 careers and it's worked out well. The biggest difference is that none of them carried the risk of getting locked up.

You are probably considering this a high risk/high gain proposition. The high gain side of the equation is almost certainly much more tenuous than you are imagining. Your evaluation of the potential risk is much more important. If you are thinking that you'll "jest get a few years" if you get caught, you are falling into the young man's trap. A few years in prison will look completely different once it's over than it did from this side. Crushing student loans will seem trivial in comparison.

Final point. Guerrilla growing is stealing. It has nothing to do with resisting unjust laws or anything else that can be put in a positive light. All of this means that there may be a decent payoff but you will never be able to justify your work to an honest person and will always be looking over your shoulder. Horrible way to live.
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