[pip313]

Simple question anyone ever make tripoloid seed?

[Chillb]

ZAP

[oldhaole]

Just curious...not trying to be an asshole...

Besides looking cool why would you want to?

[GMT]

Does anyone here know what they are talking about?

Triploid plants look identical to diploid plants. You cannot tell from looking at them.

[Cool Moe]

Originally Posted by GMT

Triploid plants look identical to diploid plants. You cannot tell from looking at them.

if that's the case then why would you want to make them and how can you tell them apart in the first place?

[GMT]

I nor anyone else would want to. Tetraploid plants tend to have certain benefits, including but not limited to, increased growth vigour, better health, higher yielding fruits. But these terms relate to the the number of chromosomes in the plant cells. You would only know by examining a cell under a very good microscope and counting the pairs of chromosomes present. If you bred a diploid with a tetraploid, then you would end up with some triploids, but they tend to have low germination rates and poor fertility, and would not be an end breeding goal unless you wanted to fuck with your customers for some reason.

I believe what is being asked is something else, but I wont pre-empt any questions with un asked for answers.

[Chillb]

GMT, thank you ... I am a novice and have applied my novice terms unwittingly, gosh! =P peace ...

[pip313]

Tripoloid plants are unable to split chromosomes evenly therefore incapable of producing viable seeds. Why do it? Because I'm doing it to watermelon (orangeglo) and have a cannabis plant I would like to see uncapable of producing seeds under any condition specifically gorilla growing. I fail to see how a plant not capable of seeds is screwing with customers. If you buy something knowing it can't reproduce sexually and that's what you get then you got what you paid for. Also this is for personal use only for me.

Doing this could be a viable alternative to breeding out a hermie tendency, instead of stoping pollination I could stop fertilization. Again for personal use.

I don't have the space to grow out a hundred s1's to find a keeper without the hermie gene an clone every one of the 100 s1's so I can keep a clone as a mom after finding the keeper. Also to know it's not a hermie mean trying to hermie the whole grow on purpose possibly more than once.

Before anyone asks yes this strain is worth all the work it is not available anymore and is extremely good smoke. It's called galaxy god bud and I am already making s1's to save the genetics if I were to loose my clone but like I said I don't currently have the space to do a keeper run from the 100 or 200 plants I'd want to select from. I do not believe choosing from 10 plants would provide enough of a selection to get a plant true to the mom in every aspect besides hermie but a seedless can be a hermie as it wouldn't be viable anyway.

[mofeta]

Hi guys

GMT is correct when he says mating a tetrapoloid (induced w/colchicine usually) with a normal diploid will produce a triploid. Triploid plants are usually almost completely sterile, and won't produce seeds (they actually do make very few seeds, of various ploidy).

As to the "tend to have low germination rates and poor fertility" part, I don't have any personal experience with triploid cannabis, but here is a quote about triploid hops from the hops chapter of "Chromosome Engineering in Plants: Genetics, Breeding, Evolution":



I think that most of our community have no idea how much things will change post-prohibition. The level of expertise in the "legit" world when it comes to plant breeding is an order of magnitude greater than even the best among us. You will be able to buy packs of super-vigorous, all female, seedless, super-kind pot seeds that are tailored to your precise needs/wants as to smell, taste, potency, high type etc.

SIDE NOTE: Man, I really don't like this built in dictionary feature that italicizes certain terms. Very annoying.

[Only Ornamental]

Hi pip313
A nice topic you've started!
But you may have forgotten something very crucial: As you know, triploid plants produce (nearly) no seeds but they produce fruits. What you want the cannabis to do isn't like watermelons without seeds but watermelon plants without watermelons LoL! I am no specialist and hence don't know whether triploid cannabis, which produces achenes (a special form of nuts), would still produce "hollow" nuts (and you'd gain nothing from it) or really the sought-after empty calyxes...