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Santalum · 03-18-2015, 02:55 PM

Is it possible to sex hemp seed in much the same manner as sexing a cannabis seed? Ie volcano crater = female. Thanks

Only Ornamental · 03-18-2015, 05:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Santalum

Is it possible to sex hemp seed in much the same manner as sexing a cannabis seed? Ie volcano crater = female. Thanks

Yes and no. There's no difference in hemp and cannabis seeds but that volcano crater thingy is bogus... if you want to sex a seed, crush it and run a gene test on it (though said seed will obviously be dead afterwards). The only thing normal people can do is 'grow, then you know'.

highlem · 03-18-2015, 07:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Chanvre info

Semences de chanvre industriel certifiées Le chanvre, la matière première écologique de l’avenir.
Type : Beniko ou Finola idéal pour la production de graines et de fibres de chanvre.
Prix : prix du jour
Est contenu dans le catalogue des variétés Suisse (RS 916.051.6) et de la C.E. (1251/199).
A commander chez Chanvre-Info.ch Mail : info chez chanvre-info.ch

https://www.chanvre-info.ch/info/ar/S...ndustriel.html

Date de l’offre feb. 2009... Mais ça coûte rien de leur écrire pour s'informer! Ils pourront te diriger vers quelqu'un ou peut être toujours d'actualité vu que légal...
chanvre-info est/était une vraie source fiable depuis des décennies même si affaibli par le décès de membres fondateurs...

peut être une autre piste plus pertinente pour toi...

Only Ornamental · 03-18-2015, 08:59 PM

Coucou,
T'as tout à fait raison, c'est une bonne source d'infos.
Sauf que le magasin affilé est Swisshempshop et le mec là n'a pas pu m'aider trop... plus, vu qu'on puisse obtenir la même quantité de grains similaires gratuits ailleurs...

Merci en tout cas pour le lien!

PS chanvre-info does also have an English, German and so on site for those not fluent in French. It's really worth a look for a lot of things cannabis and hemp related (with emphasis on Swiss laws but by no means only for Swiss folks).

Santalum · 03-30-2015, 07:00 AM

oldchuck I read one of your posts over on the 420 blogs and you mentioned you obtained your Finola seed from a small shop in Finland. Do you remember the web address of that supplier? Many thank in advance.

Any update on the Dx? I really hope these units can be refined.

Santalum · 03-30-2015, 01:25 PM

BEfore you hopefully answer me OC I'll throw another question your way. What extraction method are you using on your hemp and what type of tincture are you producing to treat you seizures please? Don't mean to burden you with too many questions but I'm sponging to get my daughter right and I know in my heart it is possible. Its about feedstock first and then dosage strategy. I have read most of your posts and they are probably contain the most valuable insight anyone has yet to give me into management strategies for seizures. Hats off to you for sharing.

oldchuck · 03-30-2015, 03:17 PM

Here you go, Santalum:

https://www.yrttilato.fi/

You have to hunt around a bit to find the tiny British flag to get it in English. Only Ornamental turned me on to that shop last year in his hemp hub thread. You should read his first post in that thread. Lots of useful information.

Santalum · 03-30-2015, 03:35 PM

Thank you OC. Much appreciated. Assumedly the Fins focus their variety choice on Finola given their short summer.

oldchuck · 03-30-2015, 04:02 PM

Regarding you other questions, I keep it as simple as possible: home growing and kitchen chemistry.

The weed: this first worked for me with a standard high THC variety reduced to tincture. I was amazed, negligible CBD but it worked. Then I grew the Finola and it worked even better to my further amazement. Then I made a simple F1 cross, Finola/Satori and I believe it works best of all. Going to try and make a lot of those seeds this year. So, I've tried it three ways, high THC/low CBD, low THC/presumed boost in CBD, and hybrid cross hopefully a more balanced ratio. They all work. Still can't put real numbers to any of that.

My tincture recipe: One oz of weed and one liter of 95% ethanol.

Decarb and fragment the weed in the oven for a half hour or so then freeze everything overnight.

Quick wash the weed in the ethanol for about thirty seconds in a French press leaving a nice amber solution. Then I distill off the alcohol with a hot plate and small condenser. I'll recover about two thirds of the alcohol for reuse. I'll boil the liter down to about 100-150 ml of final product. That's my incidental seizure control end product. As I said, it burns when you spray it under tongue and would not work for a child.

Not done yet. I take that ounce of weed for a second run. About half a liter of ethanol in a mason jar plus the weed just gets passively soaked for three or four days. Makes an intense Green Dragon. I distill this run all the way down, remove all the ethanol leaving a rather ugly blackish tar. Using a petrie dish and coffee warmer at this point. When the alcohol is all gone I add back coconut oil at about a 1-1 ratio plus a little soy lecithin and then inject it into OO capsules. The purpose of this to try to get some longer term blood level coverage for the medication. I've been taking one of these caps a day and wish I had enough raw material to take two. I think it is working but am still experimenting. Since it is ingested the caps cannot supply the incidental coverage I get with the tincture. I have not tried to rub the raw oil into my gums but that might work for incidental relief. The alcohol tincture is fast and effective. Sticky oil might be a big hassle in an emergency and my seizures are always emergencies.

There has been one software update for the MyDx and some people seem to be getting better results. Mine still has problems. I can't even start to believe it when clean air samples are still reading 15% THC

Santalum · 03-30-2015, 04:07 PM

I'm assuming your Finola grow was a sensimilla grow?

03-18-2015, 08:59 PM	#144
Only Ornamental Spiritually inspired agnostic mad scientist Join Date: Aug 2013 Location: Somewhere in Central Europe Posts: 2,388	Coucou, T'as tout à fait raison, c'est une bonne source d'infos. Sauf que le magasin affilé est Swisshempshop et le mec là n'a pas pu m'aider trop... plus, vu qu'on puisse obtenir la même quantité de grains similaires gratuits ailleurs... Merci en tout cas pour le lien! PS chanvre-info does also have an English, German and so on site for those not fluent in French. It's really worth a look for a lot of things cannabis and hemp related (with emphasis on Swiss laws but by no means only for Swiss folks). __________________ Growing only for ornamental reasons and because... The hemp seed hub: A thread for those who seek seeds and info on hemp, click HERE Please spare a 'like', a dear friend of mine could need some motivation. Thanks! Brainer on Retainer: Why not rent a brain by the hour? OO now on time-sharing
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03-30-2015, 04:02 PM	#149
oldchuck Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2010 Posts: 1,111	Regarding you other questions, I keep it as simple as possible: home growing and kitchen chemistry. The weed: this first worked for me with a standard high THC variety reduced to tincture. I was amazed, negligible CBD but it worked. Then I grew the Finola and it worked even better to my further amazement. Then I made a simple F1 cross, Finola/Satori and I believe it works best of all. Going to try and make a lot of those seeds this year. So, I've tried it three ways, high THC/low CBD, low THC/presumed boost in CBD, and hybrid cross hopefully a more balanced ratio. They all work. Still can't put real numbers to any of that. My tincture recipe: One oz of weed and one liter of 95% ethanol. Decarb and fragment the weed in the oven for a half hour or so then freeze everything overnight. Quick wash the weed in the ethanol for about thirty seconds in a French press leaving a nice amber solution. Then I distill off the alcohol with a hot plate and small condenser. I'll recover about two thirds of the alcohol for reuse. I'll boil the liter down to about 100-150 ml of final product. That's my incidental seizure control end product. As I said, it burns when you spray it under tongue and would not work for a child. Not done yet. I take that ounce of weed for a second run. About half a liter of ethanol in a mason jar plus the weed just gets passively soaked for three or four days. Makes an intense Green Dragon. I distill this run all the way down, remove all the ethanol leaving a rather ugly blackish tar. Using a petrie dish and coffee warmer at this point. When the alcohol is all gone I add back coconut oil at about a 1-1 ratio plus a little soy lecithin and then inject it into OO capsules. The purpose of this to try to get some longer term blood level coverage for the medication. I've been taking one of these caps a day and wish I had enough raw material to take two. I think it is working but am still experimenting. Since it is ingested the caps cannot supply the incidental coverage I get with the tincture. I have not tried to rub the raw oil into my gums but that might work for incidental relief. The alcohol tincture is fast and effective. Sticky oil might be a big hassle in an emergency and my seizures are always emergencies. There has been one software update for the MyDx and some people seem to be getting better results. Mine still has problems. I can't even start to believe it when clean air samples are still reading 15% THC
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03-18-2015, 02:55 PM	#141
Santalum Member Join Date: Jan 2015 Posts: 50	Is it possible to sex hemp seed in much the same manner as sexing a cannabis seed? Ie volcano crater = female. Thanks
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03-30-2015, 07:00 AM	#145
Santalum Member Join Date: Jan 2015 Posts: 50	oldchuck I read one of your posts over on the 420 blogs and you mentioned you obtained your Finola seed from a small shop in Finland. Do you remember the web address of that supplier? Many thank in advance. Any update on the Dx? I really hope these units can be refined.
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03-30-2015, 01:25 PM	#146
Santalum Member Join Date: Jan 2015 Posts: 50	BEfore you hopefully answer me OC I'll throw another question your way. What extraction method are you using on your hemp and what type of tincture are you producing to treat you seizures please? Don't mean to burden you with too many questions but I'm sponging to get my daughter right and I know in my heart it is possible. Its about feedstock first and then dosage strategy. I have read most of your posts and they are probably contain the most valuable insight anyone has yet to give me into management strategies for seizures. Hats off to you for sharing.
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03-30-2015, 03:17 PM	#147
oldchuck Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2010 Posts: 1,111	Here you go, Santalum: https://www.yrttilato.fi/ You have to hunt around a bit to find the tiny British flag to get it in English. Only Ornamental turned me on to that shop last year in his hemp hub thread. You should read his first post in that thread. Lots of useful information.
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03-30-2015, 03:35 PM	#148
Santalum Member Join Date: Jan 2015 Posts: 50	Thank you OC. Much appreciated. Assumedly the Fins focus their variety choice on Finola given their short summer.
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03-30-2015, 04:07 PM	#150
Santalum Member Join Date: Jan 2015 Posts: 50	I'm assuming your Finola grow was a sensimilla grow?
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