[oldchuck]

I have several batches of Finola going now scattered around the house including a couple of hybrids with drug types, different photoperiods, different ages, different locations and temps. I need lots of it because it is the most effective treatment I've found for seizure control. There is something special about it.

All hemp is not created equal. I ordered a couple of ounces of hemp buds from Slovenia (from Amazon no less) and concentrate made from it does nothing for seizures. I sure wish I had a complete cannabinoid profile to work with. Anyway...

All of my Finola test batches under various conditions produce that short spikey male stem two or three weeks from sprouting. Is it autoflowering and is that trait dominant? Don't know but there is this: I have one male cross with Satori which I am watching with interest. It spiked and flowered quickly like Finola then started to branch and slow down its flower development and became more bushy. It is now sitting in a window getting natural light (a few minutes more every day) and seems almost to have stopped developing. I have younger male Finola in the same window shedding pollen but not this guy. The flowers remain immature. I don't expect much more growth as the plant is confined.

@Thule, how did your Finola - Chinese cross turn out?

[oldchuck]

What is a QTL, OO?

[Only Ornamental]

Sorry to hear that the Slovenian one doesn't work ;( .

QTL stands for 'quantitative trait loci', it is something in parallel to 'dominant' and 'recessive' traits but it is a 'dynamic' trait like continuous from 1 to 10 instead of the 'on-off' behaviour with genes that go by Mendel's rules. Size and skin colour (in humans) are examples. Strange enough, science can't really explain how they really work...

[oldchuck]

Yeah, would have been great to be able to get functional meds for $36 for 40 grams. That's the kind of price we should be paying for all weed.

So, okay, from what we know is Finola QTL or dominant/recessive for the autoflower trait?

[Only Ornamental]

There may be a bunch of other mechanisms and genes having their fingers in the play but the central part is most likely a QTL (at least, QTL is the only possibility I know of that could explain everything and does not contradict with anything).

[Thule]

Originally Posted by Only Ornamental

The 'true auto trait' is a recessive mutation wherein one of the flowering suppressing mechanisms (e.g. enzyme) is damaged causing the plant to flower immediately after the juvenile-to-adult transition. It's an 'on-off' switch. What can be changed is the time of the transition and if the plant keeps on growing during flowering or not.
On the other hand, early flowering much like size is determined by QTL. Imagine you take the tallest plant out of a population (millions of individuals). This is seemingly the talles hight this variety will grow but as hight is due a QTL, you can breed with it and select for ever taller plants ending with something likely a lot taller than before (sure, there are limits to each QTL and also to biology). You can do the same with a small size or with flowering onset shortening the critical night length (or prolonging day length) beyond what's physically possible (like a -1 hour night ).

Ok, I get it, QTL makes for more "flexible" breeding. It goes in line with what I've witnessed when crossing and back crossing late maturing tropicals with semiautoflowering strains. In indoor setups some of the hybrids would declare sex several weeks earlier than the tropical strain which I find hugely beneficial. True autoflowers when crossed have no such effect.

[Thule]

Originally Posted by oldchuck

@Thule, how did your Finola - Chinese cross turn out?

It's still heart of winter so it'll be 4 more months before I'll be able to test them. My growbox is constantly in flowering mode and anything semiautoflowering will turn out very unimpressive. I did grow one Chinese x Austrian ruderalis out of interest but it showed male in a couple of weeks..

Since I'm looking for outdoor adaptations and size an indoor grow is pretty much just waste of space. I'll try to grow a couple of those next summer if I find the time. Not sure where to plant them though, feels strange to grow a legal variant guerrilla style.

[mexcurandero420]

In my experience the trait is not on/off switch in Finola.Never had a Finola that started to flower in August-September, but just 24 days after germination of the seed.If you make crossings the trait is quite dominant, even with Haze.

Keep on growing

[Only Ornamental]

Just took a pic of our doggies self-medicating on Finola .
After 5 minutes, 6 of the 9 plants were gone and I had to remove the pot or they'd have eaten everything.

[oldchuck]

Ah, I feel a sort of kinship with those little rugs.