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Old 02-05-2014, 11:43 PM #21
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I am using fasilitor now on my cherry pie crop along with the while aptus line... I noticed more lateral growth than normal. I doubled up in the first few weeks of flower and didnt get a pgr like response. I like it but am not totally sold on it. You use 3ml/5g so it does go a long way.

Its much different compared to dripclean. I remember using drip clean, and if you dont use it every watering you get weird nutrient uptake issues...

Fasilitor is fine to use every time or not. I use aptus 2-3 times a week so it stretches out further than u think.
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They may be referring to 3-1 inside the plant total ratio.
Simply adding cytokinin will free a plant from apicial dominance!
https://www.mbferts.com/Ba-6-Benzylam...-6-PGR-165.htm
Nothing fancy or expensive there......someone has to know the reasons for the expensiveness of the mighty fasilitor.
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Old 02-06-2014, 12:35 AM #23
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Fasilitor works well man. Use it once a week in the medium and as a foliar. My plants are stockier and meatier than ever.

If its too expensive use as a foliar.
You guys can argue back and fourth all you want about whats in it.
All i know is that it WORKS WELL
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Fasilitor and Dripclean use the same ingredient, the only difference is Fasilitor uses it in higher amounts. Drip clean is dosed at .4ml per g but at higher doses can make your plant eat.

DripClean has to be used at every watering and recommended since day 1 from cloner or else it will burn your plant, not the actual dripclean product but the action it has on the medium if there is already excess salt.

potassium oxide is the magical chem.
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Fasilitor works well man. Use it once a week in the medium and as a foliar. My plants are stockier and meatier than ever.

If its too expensive use as a foliar.
You guys can argue back and fourth all you want about whats in it.
All i know is that it WORKS WELL
Hey would you mind doing a side by side test???
With a control plant !
without a control plant, it could be you could just had a healthier crop.

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Fasilitor and Dripclean use the same ingredient, the only difference is Fasilitor uses it in higher amounts. Drip clean is dosed at .4ml per g but at higher doses can make your plant eat.

DripClean has to be used at every watering and recommended since day 1 from cloner or else it will burn your plant, not the actual dripclean product but the action it has on the medium if there is already excess salt.

potassium oxide is the magical chem.
Thanks I will look into that ASAP.
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I would like a scientific explanation!!!!!!
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Now that boys is some real science!!!!!!!!!!!
This could take a while.
Thank you kindly there G.O. Joe
You really called my bluff!!!!!!
Sounds like there may be something special about fasilitor after all.
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Hey would you mind doing a side by side test???
With a control plant !
without a control plant, it could be you could just had a healthier crop.


Thanks I will look into that ASAP.
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I agree a side by side is in order. Jackmayoffer has done some side by sides with and without and noticed an obvious difference.
And shaggy Im not into a whole bunch of additives either.

Call and get a sample pack for free and give it a go and see if it works in your setup.
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hydrodynamics released a product with 11%, but check with them, as I believe there's more then what the label states
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What makes Facilitator soo special???????
There is alot of conjecture floating around.
I would like a scientific explanation!!!!!!
If it acts like a PGR than it has a PGR hidden in it!!!!
But where is the proof???
What would cause such a reaction????
Is there ingredients not listed????
Hmmm!

I don,t mean to rattle any cages....but things just don't add up!
Just my view!
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lotsa products have unlisted ingredients... pretty lame
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