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"backward" hermaphrodites~ Induced by Ga3 ?
I wanted to make some feminized seeds this season and see for myself how they preform at a later date..
Having found a lot of info using SC and stress tech's and very little on Ga3,I went with the Ga3 tech. Hitting 2 ladies in Veg for 10 days at 550 PPM... Then flipped them... GSC & Alien O.G. In the same closet was my male BATF (Proven male) Cloned take from:... Soon into flowering it became obvious the this was a different type male than I was expecting as it looked female... Given this was a clone off a male and there was no chance of a mix up as I marked him well and never had a hiccup that could have caused a mix up with labels... I waited... Sure enough male flowers showed as well.... Then... What looks to be a Ga3 treated branch showed up for the party... So I have been looking around and reading what I could find... Some of the best quotes I found... Hope they dont mind my using them... Much respect !!! Quote:
a regular hermaphrodite is a female that produces male flowers. a backward hermaphrodite is a male that eventually produces pistils (female flowers) it is valuable in a breeding program because the offspring will have a higher ratio of females and they do not pass on any inter sex traits, he also says that many resinous desirable males exhibit this trait Quote:
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These observation/opinions have really helped me get my mind around the "backward" hermaphrodite concept... My main stumbling block is the human factor of my he she... He did not she on it's own prerogative... (Naturally) He was pushed to she using Ga3 and this Ga3 looking branch has nanners that look the same as my female ladies treated for ten days. The rest of the male has large Bud sites with frost and nanner underneath... Though no seeds visible as of yet on the he/she... Yet... There looks to be seeds forming on the Ga3 branch... Given the fact the he/shes pollen seems to have already seeded the 10 other strains in the tent and the Ga3 branch has just started to produce pollen... 2-3 weeks behind the rest of the plant... What are the chances I will have Regular beans with a high female ratio ? (Which is how im leaning on calling them) Now this is not a hermie in the sense that it started off female. "backward" hermaphrodites as DJ descibes makes sense yet not from natures choice as he describes.. But forced by treating a male with Ga3... I wonder.... There are no signs of seed on the buds as of yet but now that the Ga3 branch is tossing out pollen.. Shouldn't the bud sits on the male be forced to seed ? Self pollination... Just as in feminized seeds.. Could these seeds ( If they appear)perhaps have a higher ratio of males ? Reverse Fem seeds...lol Knowing this question will gets me lots of Neg reps just due to the question... Could those that know please help making it worth the cost and fill me in with a little knowledge... I mean... Even if this whole seeding/cross project proves to be trashed or non viable or whatever I would be cool with it as long as I learned something along the way... Now... I plan after a couple geminating test to send these out for testers to run and will also be trying to run the GCS and Lambsbread crosses myself this next season.. Going for a large grow in kiddie pools.... Anyways... Any incite or Ga3 related info would be most appreciated... Any way you look at it... I believe I am doing something not commonly done and there is a chance for new incites into whats possible... Lets not waste this opportunity with fear or stubborn opinion not based on facts (First hand or scientifically based facts) With that... A picture show for you.... .
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One frosty he/she. ...
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I had a male GDP herm on me last year after I cut most of the main branches to reduce his size.
I also had read the DJ Short article and thought why not try breeding with this male herm to see if DJ was correct. I could see no harm as the seeds would never leave my possession. The male herm never developed any seeds on itself, I did get seeds on another GDP, a SLH and a Blue Dream cut however. I later grew several seeds from each cross, as a result I ended up with 70% to 80% normal females (never hermed) with each cross. The males were pulled so I have no idea if they would have hermed. Would the F2 generation have herms? I don't know as I never tried to breed the F1s. Don't know if this helps, I just thought it was interesting all three females produces almost the same ratio of female offspring. |
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Every bit of information helps understanding the bigger picture.... Thanks for sharing... My understanding of the Reversed males are that they are regular beans with a slightly high Fem to male ratio and if I understand it right. Seeds that are made using a reversed male are sought after but those that know as they tend to be of higher quality offspring due to the males increased resin production and I think there's something about the structure but can seem to remember ATM... |
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Here is my He/She B.A.T.F.
What im finding really interesting it what GA3 does to Male plants... |
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08-29-2013, 08:56 PM
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Just super frosty and the funny thing is... I might yield a decent amount of dank smoke.... Strange thing im noticing is a lack of pollen dust as my 1st male covered everything with tons of pollen... I mean from any of the ga3 touched plants... There are beans all over so I know he is working but strange I cant seem to catch much pollen... Then again I do fan a fan blowing close by 24/7... lol Last edited by DamnUglyDogE; 09-05-2013 at 09:20 AM.. |
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