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Old 08-13-2013, 08:38 PM
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Good point Verdant, Planting invasive plants non local plants is a big no-no. If you look around you will be able to find local nutrient accumulators just about where ever you are as they are soil builders, just like all "weeds" are soil builders.

I have been fortunate enough to come across a lot of comforter growing in my area in a couple of spots. I have amassed quite a few pounds of dried comfrey for the worms and top dressing/teas..

Yarrow also grows along the side of every road I drive down

Planting your own blocking 14 and/or nettles i highly encourage. Nettles can spread by seed but if you chop before flowers develop you are in the clear. Like comfrey you can also divide by cutting the root ball of a healthy plant in half.

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I've been thinking, and planning on planting these bio accumulator's out in the woods.
essentially gorilla growing my fertilizer because I have no yard so where can I find seeds for
yarrow ,alfalfa ,comfrey ,nettles ,and horse tails?i got aloe all around me (thank god!)

also how would i go about finding out what plant are usful in my native climate.anybody on here wild crafting there gear???any good links or books??? on this matter(wild crafting/ID'ing native plants that is good for the garden)

im thinking about other things I could do in the woods/or bush for my bro's down under.
like some how worming in the sticks with diy smart pots ,shit maby even raise some kind of animals(lol j/k or am I??? )
im not going to let my situation limit my intension/actions in these matter,feel me???
I might even turn around and sell gorilla grown amendments
"local humus" aka leaf mold from the woods.lol
let me know what yall guys think
I say go for it. invasive plant species can't be any more destructive than man himself.

if my horsetail population gets insanely out of control in my urban/suburban back yard... meh.
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Old 08-13-2013, 11:44 PM
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Dynamic Accumulators


This thread is one of them! And ghostmade, all the best with your plans!

A hyperaccumulator is a plant capable of growing in soils with very high concentrations of metals, extracting these metals through their roots, and concentrating extremely high levels of metals in their tissue.

Sad that we should need plants like this to save us from Heavy Metal :-(

Hyperaccumulators are tolerant to the following: Aluminium (Al), Silver (Ag), Arsenic (As), Beryllium (Be), Chromium (Cr), Copper (Cu), Manganese (Mn), Mercury (Hg), Molybdenum (Mo), Naphthalene, Lead (Pb), Palladium (Pd), Platinum (Pt), Selenium (Se) and Zinc (Zn).

Thank you Mother Earth!

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Old 08-14-2013, 01:11 AM
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gaius- all of the things we are discussing are used for top dressing or to make teas with.

I grow alfalfa where my garden will be next year. I am gathering yarrow, nettles from in and around my yard where the soil suits them best. The nettles grow in the back yard. The yarrow grows in the back field where the soil is sandy, rocky and only suits the life of a great plains plant. My state looks kind of barren until you look at what grows here........prairie grass, yarrow, echinecea, dandelion, nettles, giant rag weed and hundreds of different wild flowers.


Read this book.......Weeds Guardians of the Soil. Jaykush turned me on to this book years ago.

I was just out collecting yarrow heads, Black eyed Susans (wild flower) Black Samsons and a few other wild flowers and dynamic accumulators. The nettles have just started to pollinate here.......there was a pollen warning on it today. lol I will have those seeds soon also.

Free fertilizers for next years crop outdoors. Ones all those little critters won´t dig your plants up to eat.........like they do most organic fertilizers like bone meal, horn meal, fish meal..........

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I like the idea of collecting these items around the place in nature and using them again.

We got nettles, for sure!
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I say go for it. invasive plant species can't be any more destructive than man himself.

if my horsetail population gets insanely out of control in my urban/suburban back yard... meh.
thats pretty irresponsible.

most of the invasive plants causing problems in the UK were introduced by gardeners. Himalayan balsam, japanese knotweed, rhododendrum etc etc. They ruin ecosystems, reduce biodiversity and dont support many native insects.

i think trying to establish that stuff in your garden is getting it arse about face, better to get out and find what you already have in abundance in your area and learn about gather/use that. the whole point is that you are using what is already there and plentiful imo.

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Old 08-14-2013, 11:30 AM
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Plus horsetail is incredibly invasive and impossible to keep from spreading because of the spores.
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Plus horsetail is incredibly invasive and impossible to keep from spreading because of the spores.

That is the reason Horsetail has been around since prehistoric times........it IS the oldest existing herb according to fossil finds. It appears in great abundance from the Carboniferous period. At one time it grew several meters tall as a tree does.
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Old 08-14-2013, 12:18 PM
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I like the idea of collecting these items around the place in nature and using them again.

We got nettles, for sure!
Here is a read for you Payaso.

Stinging Nettles
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Old 08-14-2013, 02:57 PM
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Fukushima leaking radioactive water for ‘2 years, 300 tons flowing into Pacific daily’

that's 300 tons of radioactive water, flowing into the Pacific ocean, every day for the last 2 years.

some how Horsetail overgrowing a cul-de-sac in Hoboken, New Jersey doesn't make me get all jittery feeling inside.
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