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Old 08-13-2013, 02:16 AM #21
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Alfalfa is one of those all around plants........top dressing, teas, folair feeding and of course even dry you can use it to heat up the compost pile as it is considered a ´green´ because of the C\N ratio.

Kelp meal is another one.....top dress, teas, folair feeding.

Stinging Nettles, Comfrey, Yarrow to name a few. BTW I have collected many Wild Western Yarrow heads from a field near my house to plant with the wild flowers I started this year. Should have many thousand growing next spring along with the Black Samson Echinacea
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Using Natural nutrient accumulator plants is the way to go all the ones listed above, but lets not forget Equisetum (horse tail). The great Salicylic acid accumulator.

Who needs protek or agrisil 16 when you got Horse tail.

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Old 08-13-2013, 03:04 PM #23
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bionutirent accumulators here in the south;

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I've been thinking, and planning on planting these bio accumulator's out in the woods.
essentially gorilla growing my fertilizer because I have no yard so where can I find seeds for
yarrow ,alfalfa ,comfrey ,nettles ,and horse tails?i got aloe all around me (thank god!)

also how would i go about finding out what plant are usful in my native climate.anybody on here wild crafting there gear???any good links or books??? on this matter(wild crafting/ID'ing native plants that is good for the garden)

im thinking about other things I could do in the woods/or bush for my bro's down under.
like some how worming in the sticks with diy smart pots ,shit maby even raise some kind of animals(lol j/k or am I??? )
im not going to let my situation limit my intension/actions in these matter,feel me???
I might even turn around and sell gorilla grown amendments
"local humus" aka leaf mold from the woods.lol
let me know what yall guys think

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Ghostmade- These two books might help with your search for local "weeds" for nutrients. One has a analysis of the plants and their make up and one is soil analysis of the soil where a certain "weed" grows. Great stuff

https://www.acresusa.com/books/closeu...&catid=&pcid=2
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Old 08-13-2013, 04:53 PM #26
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Dont forget Dr. Duke's Phytochemical and Ethnobotanical Databases

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just so i'm not misunderstanding, by growing the nettles horsetail comfrey around your plants you don't have to feed the soil separately?

or are you taking about using them for teas etc?
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maybe if you grew plants like that & let them die and fall where they grew for a few years they would feed your plants ~assuming you then grew there

but FTMP i m referencing using them in teas and compost
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gaiusmarius- If you found all of those growing in one spot it would probably have some of the best soil under them. I also don't think that they would all grow in the same spot as most of them are waste place plants and require different enzyme systems for the seeds to grow.

Yarrow, nettle, horse tail, dandelion and others are soil builders. They like to grow where the soil is lacking or has to much of a nutrient available in the soil, so a specific plant will be encouraged to grow due to the make up of the soil. They grow, sequester, die and then decompose to build the soil.

Also if you plant a nutrient accumulator plan with other crops it is likely to rob your soil of nutrients that would other wise be available to your plant.

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one word of warning, these are all invasive 'weeds' even though we have a use for them. Horsetail particularly is almost impossible to iradicate once it is established. the roots can go down metres and one plant can span a whole street... so i would find a place where it already grows and gather it rather than try to plant it in your garden - which could end up being quite an irresponsible act.
in any case many of them will only grow (and become a problem) on the soils they are happy in, for example yarrow likes sand or chalky soils and will not easily grow anywhere else, nettles are a good indicator for fertile soil and are more versatile. dandelions spread very quickly and are a magnet for root aphids so watch out for that if you like to chop and mulch with them - especially if you are bringing them indoors.

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