[Mate Dave]

I've had that & it's different to lacking in Ca. I've grown maybe 200 crops in the uk not every one of them works a dream. When anything is off it detracts from optimum. But a soil test will tell you this. Growing on Peat you can't have a test Calcium is the easy one to spot if you get the pun? Far different to anothers effect that you will see in the leaf tissue. It's a blatant one.. I'd rather have to little of another macro than to little of Ca & finish up early...

[redlaser]

Originally Posted by Weird

the myths regarding soil nutrients and plant expression are so grossly overstated at this point that truth is no longer appreciated and when you argue to the importance of verity of information you get people arguing how they don't detract from the thread

What’s up Weird. I would agree that myths concerning nutrient needs abound online and elsewhere, fairly easy to find conflicting info, studies, experiences etc.

I’m guessing that you are stating in general how it’s an issue when people argue about importance of verity of infirmation and people detracting in the thread.
Since I’m still sifting through truth, studies, experiences, I’d be surprised if it sounds like I have anything figured out for sure.

[PaulieWaulie]

After looking at all the different Mix recipes from Burn1,Weird,Dank Frank,Nameless, Gascanstan,3 Little Birds, and COOTZ I was able to pull out an overall average recipe for myself. I realized that many ingredients are included because they were available easily and cheap for that person, not because they are considered superior and the one and only. So this is the recipe I came up with for myself, based on what I could acquire cheap and wholesale locally.

1 Cup Bonemeal
1/2 Cup Kelp
1/2 Cup Alfalfa
1/2 Cup Bloodmeal
1/2 Cup Glacial Rock Dust
1/3 Cup Oyster Shell
1/3 Cup Dolomite Lime
1/3 Cup Gypsum
1/4 Cup Azomite

50% PEAT
35% PERLITE
15% EWC (High quality fresh homemade)

Will let this cook for 4 weeks, and take a ph measurement at that time and report back here with results. Any comments are welcome!

[Rodehazrd]

Originally Posted by PakSamGyiShing

Rh, so long as you already have near-correct levels of calcium (60+% base saturation), adding gypsum will leach the other cations off of the exchange complex, via the added sulfate.

Am I correct then in thinking the sulfate combines with the potassium to lock it up again as K2so4? or is that too simplistic

[Weird]

Originally Posted by PaulieWaulie

After looking at all the different Mix recipes from Burn1,Weird,Dank Frank,Nameless, Gascanstan,3 Little Birds, and COOTZ I was able to pull out an overall average recipe for myself. I realized that many ingredients are included because they were available easily and cheap for that person, not because they are considered superior and the one and only. So this is the recipe I came up with for myself, based on what I could acquire cheap and wholesale locally.

1 Cup Bonemeal
1/2 Cup Kelp
1/2 Cup Alfalfa
1/2 Cup Bloodmeal
1/2 Cup Glacial Rock Dust
1/3 Cup Oyster Shell
1/3 Cup Dolomite Lime
1/3 Cup Gypsum
1/4 Cup Azomite

50% PEAT
35% PERLITE
15% EWC (High quality fresh homemade)

Will let this cook for 4 weeks, and take a ph measurement at that time and report back here with results. Any comments are welcome!

You struck a very important point I would like to tweak just a bit with some insight

first it isn't cheapest although it works out that way

it is the most abundant sustainable highest quality local components that are least expensive and offer most benefit (local indigenous microbes are most compatible with local indigenous amendments as well as local amendments being potentially fresher)

secondarily some items are used because they provide IPM benefits as well as supplement the primary amendments

neem meal for example fills more than one roll although I do not use it in flower because I don't want azadacdrine sp* in my end product it suits a fine example of serving multiple purposes

in my garden crab meal is a huge part of my ipm and I get it fresh and cheap

and on a last note personally I never used azomite because I read it is not compatible with fulvic acids (I do not use them anymore but when I started I had some around)

that is all i have on that

[Weird]

Originally Posted by redlaser

What’s up Weird. I would agree that myths concerning nutrient needs abound online and elsewhere, fairly easy to find conflicting info, studies, experiences etc.

I’m guessing that you are stating in general how it’s an issue when people argue about importance of verity of infirmation and people detracting in the thread.
Since I’m still sifting through truth, studies, experiences, I’d be surprised if it sounds like I have anything figured out for sure.

yes

and if you notice the one thing I do is compare my own work to itself and I offer to show my take on that work

someone people automatically think it is meant to compare against them instead of it encouraging people to take the leap

i grew up on the bottle

i figured this shit out over years and offer simple this is how it works methodology and people doubt it because they are so used to being sold with an agenda and comparative marketing

most people fuck up by over doing it in hopes more equals more and better when instead is is really the biggest limiter to understanding how to fine tune natural systems but what the fuck do I know i am dwight schrute with dreads