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Old 03-28-2014, 04:48 AM #21
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Made it through, and it is no wonder I'm no taxman. The DOR document, short compared to the others, but an absolute nightmare to read... Give me the Dept of Agr 80 pager any day, as long as I don't have to read about taxes again...

Took me a trip to google to figure out what the hell biosecurity was, I had fingerprint and retina scanners in my mind for a bit
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Old 03-28-2014, 08:38 AM #22
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Congratulations, then you're already more well versed than , truly, the majority. I've been a little firm about some things with people, and, that is one area. How anyone thinks they are going to operate in any significant capacity and not?....beyond me....

Agreed, IDFPR (Dispo) and AG read was, for me, an absolute pleasure.....(and utter fascination at some of the silliness), but, some very interesting issues contained within for the operator...(I'm a little disappointed that I am the only one who has caught them so far to be honest........but, I suppose that's a good thing.....)

I think, for anyone seeking any position in the future, that would be number 1. (Yes, I know, not the finals, but a re read, when the majority will remain the same, and attention to differences/further revisions will only make one that much more well versed.....A complete and total command over the regulations and operation(s) will do nothing but help one seeking something....

Note on the above: One of the reasons would be I think, the way it is being laid out as one can observe if well versed, is there is going to be very little tolerance for "mistakes" made in operations...(there very well may, in the end be, but, gauging by the reception it has had in IL so far?.....
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Old 03-28-2014, 04:13 PM #23
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It would definitely be easy to figure out how serious someone is based on how knowledgeable they are regarding the finer points. Like you said, so many little things are laid out with no wiggle room, and any little mistake will either cost you your app, or up to a $50,000 fine per violation... Ouch! Which is a drop in the bucket compared to a forfeited escrow...


I ran into a few fun facts I thought were notable... Mostly from the DAGR as that is where my interest lies...

For the everyday user... Seeds count towards your limit, so those of us with nice genetic collections... I wouldn't be surprised if some are pushing the limit (2.5z) just with beans alone...

The label and lab testing was interesting... A lab employee picking at random, and then requiring the label to be within 85-115% for THC, THCA, CBD, and CBDA content... Which seems very stringent...

I would like to see who will take advantage of the summer sun and rock the locked greenhouse...

The security, and the 8 (exaggerated) different types of alarms that are required... All they left out was the 'incoming meteorite' alarm...

The permit liability section doesn't instill any confidence, especially the part about the feds...

Removal of plants and destruction of unused cannabis was an enjoyable section... Grind it, mix it, compost it, burn it, bury it.... Simple enough, but I always loved to throw clippings and extra veg matter, along with soil into my compost bin... Soil is not compost able (without approval), cause it sounds like they will be using the compost for feedstock. And don't forget to give the good old ISP a week notice before you do... I don't remember anything about reusing your own compost as a soil input, any words on this Julian??

Permit selection section was a good read. I especially like the tiebreakers since we are all fueled up on the college bball craze

Fun fact fees... Already covered the basics earlier in the thread.... 25,000 non refundable app fee. 200,000 if accepted. 100,000 to renew. ID cards for agents/AIC (my abbreviation, had me rocking the whole time for you alice in chains fans ) is 100, and 100 for renewals and 50 for a lost card. 1,000 to change the name of the CC or an officer. 5,000 to apply for a change to the CC, and another 3,000 if the change is accepted. 1,000 for a cosmetic change to the CC... 100 per cannabis product (as in strain/variety, an edible or infused product)

Records and inventory will be your daily life. Including crop inputs, weekly inventory, labels, sales, all for 5 years...

I do like the fact that CC's are in charge of all infused products. Edibles max out at 100mg's of active THC

No cell phones inside!


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Old 04-18-2014, 10:07 AM #24
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CHICAGO (AP) - Illinois regulators finalizing the state’s conditions for medical marijuana have removed a proposed rule that would have barred legal gun owners from becoming cannabis-using patients, a person close to the process told The Associated Press.

The person spoke on the condition of anonymity because the draft regulations aren’t expected to be published until Friday. The Chicago Sun-Times first reported the change in its Thursday editions.

Some patients had said they would rather continue to use marijuana illegally rather than give up their firearms owners ID cards. The wording drew numerous complaints in public comments from gun owners who hoped to apply for medical cannabis cards. Many said their rights were being trampled.

The wording also would have affected caregivers applying for medical marijuana cards. Both patients and caregivers would have been required to certify their understanding of the conflict between gun ownership and medical marijuana use. The wording stemmed from an interpretation of federal law.

State Rep. Lou Lang, a Skokie Democrat, sponsored the medical cannabis legislation and sits on the committee that will vote on the rules. He said Thursday he has been told the provision “is out of the rules.”

“I’m happy to see that they have changed the provision,” Lang said. “I did ask them to remove it. I’m not the only person who did.”

The news was greeted warmly by advocates for patients.

“Anything that makes it less burdensome for the patients is always a good thing,” said Julie Falco of Chicago, who speaks openly about how she has used cannabis to control her pain from multiple sclerosis. “It never did make any sense.”

The Illinois medical marijuana program is a four-year pilot project with some of the strictest standards in the nation

Several state agencies are developing the regulations for how marijuana will be grown and distributed to adult patients with certain qualifying health conditions. The rules will set fees for patients, dispensaries and cultivation centers and will lay out how entrepreneurs can apply for a limited number of licenses to grow or sell cannabis products.

The gun dispute centered on 93 words out of 48 pages of rules proposed by the Illinois Department of Public Health. The dropped wording had advised gun owners they’d be in violation of state and federal law if they were approved for a medical marijuana card and didn’t give up their firearms. It said gun owners who obtained medical marijuana cards “may be subject to administrative proceedings by the Illinois State Police if they do not voluntarily surrender” their firearms owners ID cards or concealed carry permits.
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Update on April 18 2014

The Illinois Department of Public Health, Department of Financial and Professional Regulation, Department of Revenue and Department of Agriculture have formally filed medical cannabis pilot program administrative rules. These rules incorporate many of the comments and suggestions we have received from the public.

Today begins the 45-day "First Notice" public comment period on the rules, which shall be followed by the "Second Notice" period where the Joint Committee on Administrative Rules will consider adoption of the rules.

https://www2.illinois.gov/gov/mcpp/Pa...-04182014.aspx
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Update on April 25 2014

The Illinois Department of Public Health will host two public hearings regarding the administrative rules proposed for the Compassionate Use of Medical Cannabis Patient Registry. The hearings will be held:

May 5, 2014 at 9:30 AM
James R. Thompson Center
Concourse Level, Assembly Hall Auditorium
100 W. Randolph Street
Chicago, IL 60601

May 21, 2014 at 9:00 AM
University of Illinois Springfield
1 University Plaza
Springfield, IL 62703
(Parking is available in Lots B and C North)

The proposed rules for implementation of the Compassionate Use of Medical Cannabis Pilot Program Act were published in the Illinois Register on April 18, 2014, which marked the beginning of the formal rulemaking process, and will be available for 45 days of public comment until the General Assembly’s Joint Committee on Administrative Rules (JCAR) begins its review.

JCAR follows a 2-step process that generally lasts for a minimum of 90 days. Both the general public and the General Assembly, through JCAR, have the chance to offer input prior to the rules being adoption. For more information on the JCAR rule making process, visit https://www.ilga.gov/commission/Jcar/.

https://www2.illinois.gov/gov/mcpp/Pa...-04252014.aspx
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https://www2.illinois.gov/gov/mcpp/Pa...-08082014.aspx





DPH Patient Applications Now Available, Application Submission Period Begins September 2nd

DO NOT SEND APPLICATIONS IN AT THIS TIME OR THEY WILL BE DISREGARDED

In order to provide time for patients and caregivers to prepare all necessary materials, application information for Patients and Caregivers is now available online at mcpp.illinois.gov. Online materials include:
1.Patient Application Form (PDF)
2.Caregiver Application Form (PDF)
3.Physician Certification Form (PDF)
4.Fingerprint Consent Form (PDF)

Draft Applications for Dispensaries and Cultivation Centers Now Available

DO NOT SEND ANY APPLICATIONS IN AT THIS TIME OR THEY WILL BE DISREGARDED

Draft applications for dispensaries and cultivation centers are now available online at mcpp.illinois.gov. Online materials include:

Draft Dispensary Applications
1.Draft Dispensary Application (PDF)
2.Dispensary Zoning Form (PDF)

Draft Cultivation Center Applications
1.Draft Cultivation Center Application (PDF)
2.Cultivation Center Zoning Form (PDF)

Dispensary and Cultivation Center Application Time Frames

We anticipate the application window for Dispensary and Cultivation Center Applicants to be Monday, September 8, 2014 through Monday, September 22, 2014. More details will follow in the coming weeks.

Town Hall Meetings

The State has scheduled three town hall meetings throughout the state in order to answer any questions about the applications that may arise from those interested in applying as a patient/caregiver (through the Department of Public Health), for a cultivation center license (through the Department of Agriculture) or for a dispensary license (through the Department of Financial and Professional Regulation). Below are the details for those three meetings:
1.Southern Illinois: Metro East, Thursday August 14th, 9:30 a.m. – 1102 Eastport Plaza Drive, Collinsville, IL 62234
2.Central Illinois: Monday, August 18th, 11a.m., Peoria Public Library, 107 NE Monroe Street, Peoria, IL 61602
3.Northern Illinois: Wednesday, August 20th, 10a.m. Northeastern Illinois University, Alumni Hall (North), Student Union Building, 5500 N. St. Louis Avenue, Chicago, IL 60625

Frequently Asked Questions

The State will continue to accept comments and questions about the application process and program implementation. If you send your comments and questions to the appropriate e-mail address below, the State will attempt to address as many issues as possible through the FAQ page on mcpp.illinois.gov.
1.Patient/Caregiver FAQ (PDF) - Department of Public Health
2.Dispensary FAQ (PDF) - Department of Financial and Professional Regulations
3.Cultivation Center FAQ (PDF) - Department of Agriculture



Department of Agriculture – Cultivation Centers
Send comments to AGR.MedicalCannabis@illinois.g ov

Department of Financial and Professional Regulation - Dispensaries
Send comments to FPR.MedicalCannabis@illinois.g ov

Department of Public Health – Patients and Caregivers
Send comments to DPH.MedicalCannabis@illinois.g ov

Department of Revenue
Send comments to Rev.MCPP@illinois.gov
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Quick, what do I do?!?!?
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Baba, I know you were there, anybody else go to the townhalls? If so, we were wondering how we are supposed to acquire genetics in IL for a cultivation center...

Meeting was half informative, the other half was just people asking silly questions.
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Haha, no one actually asked that question. I think it's Dont Ask, Dont Tell.
I think, if you get a cultivation center permit and start operations, the state will not go in and ask 'where did you get all these seeds?!?' and start tearing it down. theyre going to a lot of work to implement this program and want to make sure cc's are ready to start producing medicine asap in 2015. so their natural inclination would be to let you start producing medicine so long as everything else is in compliance.
it would be nice to know if you brought in a bunch of huge mother plants, and the inspectors show up, will they ask hey, you've been open for a week and these plants are taller than i am.
maybe better to start off with seeds then.
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