[bigbag]

crossed up some old, first release version of VB x Meao Thai with my F14 IBL Texada Timewarp x Cambodian ( old viet vet, acclimatized IBL ). should bring the flowering time down, all while maintaining exotic integrity went ape with the pollen and now have 5000 or so nice looking, tiger striped beans. same male TW/Cam had his way with Angolese x Meao Thai as well... Angolese x was done in 9 weeks of flower indoors and has good up buzz combined with noble wood and orange smells/tastes may have 10 000 beans of this cross. needless to say, these special wares, will all be love and gifts, never for $

[LowFalutin]

Thanks for adding to the thread

Originally Posted by bigbag

Angolese x was done in 9 weeks of flower indoors and has good up buzz combined with noble wood and orange smells/tastes may have 10 000 beans of this cross. needless to say, these special wares, will all be love and gifts, never for $

Buddy!

[dubi]

Originally Posted by Expanserene

Thanks for the welcome, LF. What interested me about the VbT was dubi's "warm and expansive" comment, and Nirrity's description of a "constant serene presence", two qualities I really like in an experience. There are a couple of strains I'd like to add that dimension to, if possible, don't know if the VbT would work for that as reports of it's effects seem kind of ambiguous. Might have to pick it up and see how it hits me, though, never can tell, personal chemistry and all.....

Hi Expanserene,

Nirrity is correct, beautifully described

The original F1 Vietnam Black Thai released between 2008-2009 was quite vietnam black dominant, the effect was like her mum, warm expansive social effect, with interesting anti anxiety properties for a sativa. This is the kind of effect i've been breeding for Orient Express line too (vietnam black x chinese indica).

[dubi]

Originally Posted by bigbag

crossed up some old, first release version of VB x Meao Thai with my F14 IBL Texada Timewarp x Cambodian ( old viet vet, acclimatized IBL ). should bring the flowering time down, all while maintaining exotic integrity went ape with the pollen and now have 5000 or so nice looking, tiger striped beans. same male TW/Cam had his way with Angolese x Meao Thai as well... Angolese x was done in 9 weeks of flower indoors and has good up buzz combined with noble wood and orange smells/tastes may have 10 000 beans of this cross. needless to say, these special wares, will all be love and gifts, never for $

Hello bigbag, im glad you found the lines interesting enough for being used in your breeding projects Hopefully you can make a fast flowering outdoor hybrid with good and strong sativa heritage.

[LowFalutin]

Just a quick update photo of, what seems to be, my most VbT-leaning pheno from the C99xVbT cross.
This is the only pheno that put out trichomes on the stems and leaves,
almost reminding me of a pheno of Panama DC I had awhile back.
Rubbing the leaves and stems gives a mildly-sweet strawberry smell.
Sorry about the large image size- just wanted the trich details to come through.
She's working her way back into veg.
cheers

[Expanserene]

Dubi, is the currently available VbT still fairly viet-dominant (warm and expansive), or has its effect changed over the years?

[Lammy]

hi
i just started some VBT.
I plan on using the males to pollinate a candy-sweet Shark Shock.

really I plan on making crosses to just about everything I got.
Including some Mandala & DJ Short gear.

peace.
Lammy

[dubi]

Originally Posted by LowFalutin

Just a quick update photo of, what seems to be, my most VbT-leaning pheno from the C99xVbT cross.
This is the only pheno that put out trichomes on the stems and leaves,
almost reminding me of a pheno of Panama DC I had awhile back.
Rubbing the leaves and stems gives a mildly-sweet strawberry smell.
Sorry about the large image size- just wanted the trich details to come through.
She's working her way back into veg.
cheers
View Image

It's a very good sign to see such trichomes in main leaves and stems, how is the Vietnam Black Thai x c99 cross expressing now ?

[dubi]

Originally Posted by Expanserene

Dubi, is the currently available VbT still fairly viet-dominant (warm and expansive), or has its effect changed over the years?

Hi Expanserene,

The previous Vietnam Black version was very vietnamese dominant, the hybrid is out of stock right now, i have been busy with other projects lately so i havent breed the hybrid further, indeed it has not been listed in our website this year. I guess some retailers should still have VB Thai packs in stock.

I'd also recommend you to explore the more vietnamese sativa phenos from Orient Express, i have OE seed lots that are very influenced by Vietnam Black mother if you are interested.

[dubi]

Originally Posted by Lammy

hi
i just started some VBT.
I plan on using the males to pollinate a candy-sweet Shark Shock.

really I plan on making crosses to just about everything I got.
Including some Mandala & DJ Short gear.

peace.
Lammy

Hi Lammy, im glad you are thinking to use our sativas for your own home breeding. Let me know if i can help you with the selections. You can get an amazing outcome by crossing your favourite hybrid clones with wilder sativa genetics.