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Old 08-01-2013, 12:57 PM #1
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Ubuntu or Debian?

I am totally new to this. Sorry if my questions seem stupid/naive. First a little background. I have dabbled a little with Ubuntu and have a copy of 12.1 LTE on CD.My hard drive crapped out on my HP laptop. Extra sucks because the fucking windows 7 os was on it. HP support was little to no help. One Indian support person offered to send a new HD with a windows 7 installation disk for $137 but with only a 3 month warranty. But the other one crapped out in 15 months so every 15 months later I'll be doing this all again? I wanted to think about that. When I called back a few days later after deciding to go for it they said they didn't have one but would give me some numbers to call. WTF? Nah. Thanks but no thanks. Since I had already removed the old hard drive to get the numbers I ordered a new smaller one (only 160GB) on Ebay. Only $30 with free shipping. Just screwing around I tried loading the Ubuntu on it even with no hard drive in it. It worked! I just can't save anything. I'm posting this using no hard drive. Coolio.

Firefox that comes with Ubuntu and has a direct link to the Debian os downloading site that must be furnished by the Ubuntu software engineers I imagine. I'm wondering if I should bother downloading a copy of Debian. I have another laptop, I could get it from there. Is Debian even worth getting though? I'm still dealing with the learning curve on Ubuntu. Is that one that different? I'm fine using Ubuntu now. I still need to figure out which anti-virus will work best with Ubuntu. Then different with Debian? Wait...
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Old 08-04-2013, 05:59 AM #2
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i use linux mint, so that's what i recommend. it's ubuntu derived and you'd probably like it. hp laptops seem to give the most problems for linux, esp. wifi. so don't be surprised if it doesn't work without a little tweaking. linux mint help chat is great for that.

debian is always a solid choice too.
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Chrome is cool too. User interface and mgt tool very much like Suse.
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You can try ghost to recover any useful data on the dead drive.
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I thought Chrome was Google's browser.

I just removed the old hard drive and destroyed it. If the hard-drive is completely inaccessible, or complete toast, using ghost or any recovery software is impossible. That hard-drive failure thing has happened twice to me long before that computer needed upgrading, which means every 6 months right now, but thanks.

I have read good things and will try Mint sometime. Thanks.
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"Well, da Nile ain't just some big river in Egypt neither."

"No reason to get excited," the thief, he kindly spoke,
"There are many here among us who feel that life is but a joke.
But you and I, we've been through that, and this is not our fate,
So let us not talk falsely now, the hour is getting late.
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Old 08-09-2013, 10:46 PM #6
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boot sector corruption doesn't mean data isnt still there.

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I thought Chrome was Google's browser.

I just removed the old hard drive and destroyed it. If the hard-drive is completely inaccessible, or complete toast, using ghost or any recovery software is impossible. That hard-drive failure thing has happened twice to me long before that computer needed upgrading, which means every 6 months right now, but thanks.

I have read good things and will try Mint sometime. Thanks.
Ghost does boot to a CDROM and you can extract data from a dead drive with boot sector corruption.
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Chrome OS by Google

Chrome is a Google port of Linux for the every day person.
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Chrome is a Google port of Linux for the every day person.
Spreken ze deutch? Or what language do you speak usually? I myself don't speak techno jargon. I also ask myself every day if I am just an everyday man? Usually I answer myself, ya.

Pardon my ignorance but if your hard drive is toast how do you suppose one downloads and uses ghost, or should I have had that in my huge useless old collection of defunct non-working with this particular os CDs?

Thanks for trying though. So, back at the ranch, Ubuntu or Debian?
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I can't decide which I like better: either, arguing on the internet is like winning in the Special Olympics, you might win but you're still retarded; or never argue with an idiot, they will drag you down to their level, and beat you with experience; or you can't fix stupid, so why argue with it? They all are funny, and all are true too.

"Well, da Nile ain't just some big river in Egypt neither."

"No reason to get excited," the thief, he kindly spoke,
"There are many here among us who feel that life is but a joke.
But you and I, we've been through that, and this is not our fate,
So let us not talk falsely now, the hour is getting late.
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Old 08-27-2013, 12:42 AM #9
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I still like Ubuntu WAY better than Windows. Secure, user friendly, etc., etc. I will try Mint sometime but I'm not bored with Ubuntu enough yet. Setting up a good fast free VPN, so even my ISP can't see my shit, is proving to be a bit of a challenge though. I tried Fringe and they totally screwed my connection/computer, so I had to reload Ubuntu and start all over. But even that was easy peazy, even for a computer dolt like myself.
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I can't decide which I like better: either, arguing on the internet is like winning in the Special Olympics, you might win but you're still retarded; or never argue with an idiot, they will drag you down to their level, and beat you with experience; or you can't fix stupid, so why argue with it? They all are funny, and all are true too.

"Well, da Nile ain't just some big river in Egypt neither."

"No reason to get excited," the thief, he kindly spoke,
"There are many here among us who feel that life is but a joke.
But you and I, we've been through that, and this is not our fate,
So let us not talk falsely now, the hour is getting late.
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Rights aren’t rights if someone can take them away.
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Old 08-30-2013, 05:29 PM #10
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Does anybody know of a safe, reliable, fast, free VPN server and client that works with Ubuntu 12.04?
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I can't decide which I like better: either, arguing on the internet is like winning in the Special Olympics, you might win but you're still retarded; or never argue with an idiot, they will drag you down to their level, and beat you with experience; or you can't fix stupid, so why argue with it? They all are funny, and all are true too.

"Well, da Nile ain't just some big river in Egypt neither."

"No reason to get excited," the thief, he kindly spoke,
"There are many here among us who feel that life is but a joke.
But you and I, we've been through that, and this is not our fate,
So let us not talk falsely now, the hour is getting late.
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Bob Dylan: All Along the Watchtower


Rights aren’t rights if someone can take them away.
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