[glasspackedbowl]

ask away. Thats what Im here for. Shit this is my path. To grow and Help others to do the same. So please next time u think im being harsh, Its my passion that drives me.

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Originally Posted by NeptHaze
so your ducksfoot male will make babies that are 50% like webbed leaves and 50% that are like mom @ (various moms )???

do u know how it will work?

or will it be all mixed up and stuff

HOTC~~~~~vvvvvvv

the White Russian and Guava #1 offspring will all be 'poly-hydbrids'.

the spread is as follows:

DF (dom)
DFxG1 (DF dom)
G1xDF (G1 dom)
G1 (dom)
DFxWR (DF dom)
WRxDF (WR dom)
WR (dom)

the phenotypical variables would be wide spread, depending on the parents used in Ducksfoot and White Russian (AK 47 & White Widow) / Guava #1 ((W1347) x (W1347 x LPS)).

the recessive genes in DF and WR/G1 would become active later down the line.

you would then need to select the best DFxWR/G1 and the best WR/G1xDF, inbreed these for several generations to create an inbred-line (IBL).

when growing the beans, i would select the plants with as much WR/G1 in them. the 50/50 crosses should be interesting to play with. looking forward to smoking some of the Ducksfoot female.. apparently quite a strong strain. the OG Strain Gude reports were were good so you never know, the potency of the 50/50's may be very good!

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so whats gonna happen here, hes got an assload of possibilitys here.
a WRxDF dont sound to bad, if its webbed and like WR alot.

how long would that take?

[glasspackedbowl]

I read all that, but, is there a question in there?

To make this easy use the bullets to mark questions like

• this
• that
• the other?

something like that.

ya man the question is under the Green line

(edited it green, looks just like the Sig break)


note: i only edited the color and size of the green line :P

[glasspackedbowl]

The ducks foot male will make a parents with some having the looks of the DF and high of the other or yeild. There are so many variations. Out of the first cross there will be like 20% DF to planst that are up to 80% like the mother, a wide range, You'll see more of the far end DF or Mother plants at first. The 50/50 pheno will be hard to find.

the thing he gotta watch is not to pic hermies. Males and females need to be flowered out totally.

To tell the truth... Your lookin at 1 to 2 years. Depending How many back crosses he could do at once. Like selecting dominate parent plants for each strains far side of the offspring during the same run. U could make it into 4 grows at 3 to 4 months each cycle. So I'd say at least a year to make a solid cross.

NOTE: I just got up so some of this might not make sence. I tryed my best. Ill look it over in the mornin.

[Daytripper]

The 50/50 pheno will be hard to find.

Edit - If by 50/50 pheno you mean the recombination of wr plants with webbed leaf then yes they will few perhaps only a few in every 100 of the F2s.

I see no reason for a backcross as a bx to either parent would break up the recombination you are wanting, the F2s hold the key.

Since each parent passes 50% of its genes to the offspring, 50% from the male and 50% from the female. All of the F1s will be 50/50.


If what you want is to have wr plants with the webbed leaf , it could be done in a few steps.

1 - make your wr df cross, can we for simplicity call this our F1.

2 - inbreed the F1s to make your F2s. I the F2 generation all possible combinations will be seen provided you grow out enough to find them.

3 - Grow out a number of F2s its in the F2s you will find the recombinations you seek.
WR plants with webbed leaf.

How many F2s will you need to grow should be the real question, that will depend on gene linkage.

With gene linkage independent assortment is restricted further and may require a very large number of F2s to be grown out.

For a nice book on genetics

Genetics - From Genes to Genomes - Hartwell, Hood, Goldberg, Reynolds, Silver, Veres. 2nd Edition.
2004, McGraw Hill
ISBN: 0072462485

[highonthechroni]

morning!

thanks for the info guys really appreciate it

[glasspackedbowl]

Since each parent passes 50% of its genes to the offspring, 50% from the male and 50% from the female. All of the F1s will be 50/50.

This is true. But 50 of what traits from each male and female. Thats why after the F1's are made you need to pick the closest plant pheno to what you want and then Indreed untill they grow uniform.

[Desiderata]

Man I'm glad someone like you created this instrument of instruction, glasspacker. This really helps bro! I can see alittle clearer on JLP's F2 projects now.