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Old 07-12-2013, 04:04 PM #1
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hello i have a question can i clone autoflowering sweetseeds strains..?

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Hi tromeros!

Welcome to the Sweet Seeds subforum here at ICMag!

Autoflowering strains in general (not only autos from Sweet Seeds) can be cloned in the sense that a branch taken from and autoflowering plant will gain roots as a branch of any other non-auto plant.

Question should be: "is it worth to clone an auto?"

And answer is:

- No, it isn't. It is possible to clone autos but in the process of rooting they will start flowering. The grower could then put the clone (once rooted) in a big pot to increase production but most of the times it will remain small and with just a single bud that usually produces less than 5gr.

An autoflowering plant will start flowering 22-28 days after germination (depending on strain and conditions). A clone from that plant will also start flowering at the same time as the mother plant. So it's too short to justify doing it. Besides that most autos don't branch enough for cloning before flowering starts. One could cut the top and root it, but that's not a solution also.

If you want to have autoflowering plants without the need of buying seeds everytime you want to run some, best option is to do your own autoflowering seeds. By polinizing a couple of branches you'll get seeds for a couple of years.



Now, besides that I have to tell you that Sweet Seeds is pioneer in (maybe) the best alternative for growers who wish cloning autos was possible and effective.

It's the F1 Fast Versions. These plants are non-autoflowering but they flower as fast as an auto. So selecting a mother plant and keeping it for taking clones is possible and the clones will be as fast as an autoflowering.

Here's more info about the F1 Fast Versions:

F1 Fast Version




Hope this helps my friend. Any other questions feel free to post it around here.

Cheers and sweet smokes!

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Old 07-13-2013, 05:01 PM #3
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Hi tromeros!

Welcome to the Sweet Seeds subforum here at ICMag!

Autoflowering strains in general (not only autos from Sweet Seeds) can be cloned in the sense that a branch taken from and autoflowering plant will gain roots as a branch of any other non-auto plant.

Question should be: "is it worth to clone an auto?"

And answer is:

- No, it isn't. It is possible to clone autos but in the process of rooting they will start flowering. The grower could then put the clone (once rooted) in a big pot to increase production but most of the times it will remain small and with just a single bud that usually produces less than 5gr.

An autoflowering plant will start flowering 22-28 days after germination (depending on strain and conditions). A clone from that plant will also start flowering at the same time as the mother plant. So it's too short to justify doing it. Besides that most autos don't branch enough for cloning before flowering starts. One could cut the top and root it, but that's not a solution also.

If you want to have autoflowering plants without the need of buying seeds everytime you want to run some, best option is to do your own autoflowering seeds. By polinizing a couple of branches you'll get seeds for a couple of years.



Now, besides that I have to tell you that Sweet Seeds is pioneer in (maybe) the best alternative for growers who wish cloning autos was possible and effective.

It's the F1 Fast Versions. These plants are non-autoflowering but they flower as fast as an auto. So selecting a mother plant and keeping it for taking clones is possible and the clones will be as fast as an autoflowering.

Here's more info about the F1 Fast Versions:

F1 Fast Version

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Hope this helps my friend. Any other questions feel free to post it around here.

Cheers and sweet smokes!

tommy

thank you my friend you just give me a verry good tip
i have another question the yield of cream caramel f1 is less than original cream caramel? why is cheaper?

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Old 07-14-2013, 01:47 AM #4
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thank you my friend you just give me a verry good tip
i have another question the yield of cream caramel f1 is less than original cream caramel? why is cheaper?

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Hi again tromeros!

You're welcome..

The yield expected from a Cream Caramel F1 Fast Version is more or less the same as in the original version.

The price variations have nothing to do with production. The final price of each strain may be higher or lower depending on how hard and on how long it takes to produce the seeds. With Cream Caramel F1 Fast Version you get cheaper seeds just because it's faster for Sweet Seeds to do a seed harvest as the strain is itself faster. Sweet Seeds can get a harvest of Cream Caramel seeds in a certain time but with Cream Caramel F1 Fast Version they get the harvest 1 or 2 weeks before the certain time mentioned for the original version.

It's all about producing costs and it does not mean at all that the more expensive strains are better than the cheaper seeds in any specific feature or characteristic. Cheaper strains are actually cheaper usually just because a plant produces more seeds and/or in a shorter time than other strains that produce less seeds and/or in a longer time frame. But quality is a different issue and it is not related with pricing.

Getting back to the F1 Fast Versions as you seem to be interested about the production I have to tell you that if production is your priority you should maybe look into Green Poison F1 Fast Version or Sweet Special F1 Fast Version, both very fast, homogenous, stable and productive. With this 2 strains you can find a keeper (to keep as a mother) with only 6 weeks of flowering.

I'll be around if you need any further info. Sweet smokes!!

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Hi again tromeros!

You're welcome..

The yield expected from a Cream Caramel F1 Fast Version is more or less the same as in the original version.

The price variations have nothing to do with production. The final price of each strain may be higher or lower depending on how hard and on how long it takes to produce the seeds. With Cream Caramel F1 Fast Version you get cheaper seeds just because it's faster for Sweet Seeds to do a seed harvest as the strain is itself faster. Sweet Seeds can get a harvest of Cream Caramel seeds in a certain time but with Cream Caramel F1 Fast Version they get the harvest 1 or 2 weeks before the certain time mentioned for the original version.

It's all about producing costs and it does not mean at all that the more expensive strains are better than the cheaper seeds in any specific feature or characteristic. Cheaper strains are actually cheaper usually just because a plant produces more seeds and/or in a shorter time than other strains that produce less seeds and/or in a longer time frame. But quality is a different issue and it is not related with pricing.

Getting back to the F1 Fast Versions as you seem to be interested about the production I have to tell you that if production is your priority you should maybe look into Green Poison F1 Fast Version or Sweet Special F1 Fast Version, both very fast, homogenous, stable and productive. With this 2 strains you can find a keeper (to keep as a mother) with only 6 weeks of flowering.

I'll be around if you need any further info. Sweet smokes!!

tommy
ok tommy thank you verry much sweet smokes to you too..
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Hi tromeros!

Welcome to the Sweet Seeds subforum here at ICMag!

Autoflowering strains in general (not only autos from Sweet Seeds) can be cloned in the sense that a branch taken from and autoflowering plant will gain roots as a branch of any other non-auto plant.

Question should be: "is it worth to clone an auto?"

And answer is:

- No, it isn't. It is possible to clone autos but in the process of rooting they will start flowering. The grower could then put the clone (once rooted) in a big pot to increase production but most of the times it will remain small and with just a single bud that usually produces less than 5gr.

An autoflowering plant will start flowering 22-28 days after germination (depending on strain and conditions). A clone from that plant will also start flowering at the same time as the mother plant. So it's too short to justify doing it. Besides that most autos don't branch enough for cloning before flowering starts. One could cut the top and root it, but that's not a solution also.

If you want to have autoflowering plants without the need of buying seeds everytime you want to run some, best option is to do your own autoflowering seeds. By polinizing a couple of branches you'll get seeds for a couple of years.



Now, besides that I have to tell you that Sweet Seeds is pioneer in (maybe) the best alternative for growers who wish cloning autos was possible and effective.

It's the F1 Fast Versions. These plants are non-autoflowering but they flower as fast as an auto. So selecting a mother plant and keeping it for taking clones is possible and the clones will be as fast as an autoflowering.

Here's more info about the F1 Fast Versions:

F1 Fast Version

View Image


Hope this helps my friend. Any other questions feel free to post it around here.

Cheers and sweet smokes!

tommy
What if you just keep them on a 24 hr light cycle? I have some Star Dawgs I am attempting to clone and am hoping for the best.
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What if you just keep them on a 24 hr light cycle? I have some Star Dawgs I am attempting to clone and am hoping for the best.
Cheers mate!

Cloning an auto kept on a 24hr light cycle?

If it's really an auto it should start flowering sometime... I don't doubt that if you try this with a lot of seeds from a lot of strains you can find an exception and get one that does the job, but it's not very likely in my opinion.

Good luck with it and keep us updated if you want

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Sure will! It's my first attempt at cloning BTW. They came to me as clone clippings and they were taking forever to grow. The roots got algae from over watering and I decided to clip and try my hand at cloning. I'm using a Ezcloner. Tap water brought down from 7.6 to 5.6. Put some Dutch master root zone in the mix 1ml/gal. Oh and crossing my fingers.

The Star Dawg is a super score. Especially for a rookie I know. Poped some white rhino just to play with also.
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