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Willits California explosion.

Willits California explosion.

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Butane Explosion Blows Ceiling On Motel Room

By Adrian Baumann
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Posted: 12/12/2014 11:28:02 AM PST0 Comments


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Firefighters stand outside the room where the alleged illegal activity took place. The suspect is...


The familiar boom of what appears to have been a hash-oil related minor explosion once again rang out through Willits Wednesday evening, December 10, from room 21 of the Pine Cone Motel on S. Main Street. The Little Lake Fire Department responded to a call of a structure fire, and upon arriving found the room full of smoke but with no fire; no one was injured and one suspect was being questioned.
Little Lake Chief Carl Magann explained, "Basically we just came in; I saw evidence of illegal activities and requested law enforcement to respond." Elaborating, "It appears that there was a release of butane inside the apartment, and it found an ignition source, and we actually had a concussion inside the apartment there—it lifted the ceiling." Magann further qualified the event as a "minor explosion," that did not cause any significant fire but did result in substantial smoke.
The department initially responded with three engines but Magann cut it down to one engine once he was on scene.
A couple, staying in the room next to the explosion with three children, were outside when the concussion occurred. The couple asked not to be identified. The man described the explosion, "Suddenly I hear this," he then made a sound of a rasping explosion, and continued, "He was doing something inside and the place was on fire, the bathroom was on fire, smoke coming out. And then we called the owners, she told him to use the fire extinguisher," said the man. The woman commented, "He just runs out of his room and we obviously knew something went wrong, so I peeked in the room and I just see the bathroom in flames, and a really foul smell." The broken glass from the fire extinguisher case was scattered in front of the room, though it was unclear if the extinguisher had been used.
The couple's small children had been playing in the room when the explosion occurred. They apparently inhaled some small amount of smoke. Though the children seemed fine the parents and Little Lake Fire opted to have an ambulance come to check them out. The children were unharmed and received teddy bears from Little Lake firefighters. Little Lake carries the stuffed animals on the engines for just such occasions. The children appeared pleased.
During this time the suspect was detained by police, without handcuffs, sitting near the room and watched over by a police officer. He appeared unharmed by the explosion, and chatted amicably with the officer in the rain. He was standing in wet socks and no jacket. Once the room had been cleared he was provided with his own boots and hoodie from the room by the police.
While declining to give a statement the motel owners were adamant that they did not know what the suspect had been doing. The woman in the adjacent room told TWN that the motel owners, "have been wonderful to us. They moved us immediately to another room."
No arrest was made pending the completion of the Willits police investigation.
Butane explosions associated with the production of hash or honey oil have become an increasing problem for Mendocino County firefighters.

Don't be a BHOtard, doing open blasting!!!!

I did closed loop once several months ago, and still scared the shit out of me, to the point I have not tried again.

Eminem said in some song - You have one shot (speaking of life). Don't blow it!!!!!!!!!!

http://www.katu.com/news/local/Hash...-Portland-apartments-burns-man-285134251.html


Hash oil explosion damages SE Portland apartments, burns man

By KATU.com Staff Published: Dec 8, 2014 at 1:55 PM PST

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Police say a man was burned in a hash oil explosion that damaged a SE Portland apartment building early Monday morning.
PORTLAND, Ore. – A man was treated at the hospital after he was burned in an explosion while making hash oil in a Southeast Portland apartment early Monday morning, Portland Police said.
At around 1 a.m. Monday, officers got reports of three people arguing and fighting outside some apartments on Southeast Powell Boulevard.
Witnesses told police dispatchers that one of those involved had been punched in the face, and another person “had a knife and was threatening to stab someone.”
The group had left by the time police arrived.
About a half hour earlier, neighbors heard an explosion inside one of the apartments. Officers searched the apartment and found some structure damage.
Firefighters came out to make sure the building was safe.
Police later learned that a man went to a Portland hospital with burns he’d received in a butane explosion. According to police, he was trying to make hash oil inside the apartment with structural damage.
No arrests have been made, but investigators are following up on the incident.

http://www.wkyc.com/

Investigator | Explosive, dangerous drug showing up in NE Ohio

It's called "marijuana on steroids."
Tom Meyer, WKYC 5:36 a.m. EST December 16, 2014
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It's called "marijuana on steroids." Also, the "crack of marijuana." It's dangerous, potent and explosive, and it's turning up in local neighborhoods. It goes by many names including dab, dabbing, wax, butter, honey and amber.

"I know someone who almost blew up their kitchen doing it," said "Bill," an admitted drug user and peddler for the past 15 years.

He calls the drug dangerous and very potent.

"A very small amount can be the equivalent of two to three grams, which a normal person would take a week to smoke. And you're smoking this all at once," he said.

Two men in Lakewood were recently busted for possession of the drug following a search of their home.

"We did find two homes in Lakewood actually producing the butter. They had large amounts," said Lt. Kevin Kaucheck, the man in charge of the city's narcotics unit..

In Mentor-on-the-Lake, emergency crews responded to a report of an explosion and fire at the North Shore Estates apartment complex. A subsequent search of the place found evidence of dabbing. The resident had been in the process of manufacturing butane hash oil when the explosion occurred.

"It was a flash fire, and it actually injured the individual," said David Frisone, the director of the Lake County Narcotics Agency.

Butane hash oil, or dabs as they're called, are hard and wax-like concentrates that are made by extracting THC, the active ingredient in marijuana.

The drug is made with butane torches. Because butane is highly flammable, improper production practices can lead to explosions and fires.

Channel 3 News discovered that most police departments have never heard of the drug, but "Bill" says it's widely available on the streets of Cleveland and its suburbs.

"I had quite a few people ask me for it or they asked me to make it and I flat out refused because it's just too dangerous," he said.

The State Highway Patrol found four pounds of dab during a traffic stop in Hamilton County. They arrested the driver, a Cleveland man. He was hauled off to jail and charged with felony drug possession and trafficking.

http://www.signalscv.com/section/36/article/130724/



UPDATE: Blast and fire of Neenach home leads to discovery of "honey lab"
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Local sheriff’s deputies responding to an explosion and house fire in Neenach Tuesday night discovered an alleged illegal “honey oil lab” at the scene, a lieutenant said.

About 9 p.m., deputies with the Santa Clarita Valley Sheriff’s Station responded to reports of an explosion and fire on 253rd Street West, in Neenach, Lt. Chris Bergner of the Los Angeles County Sheriff Department’s Narcotics Bureau said in a news release Wednesday.

Neenach is about 30 miles north of the Santa Clarita Valley.

“Deputies along with fire personnel found a building on the property that appeared to have suffered an explosion and was on fire,” Bergner said.

“Firefighters and an L.A. County Fire Department Hazmat Crew worked quickly to extinguish the fire,” he said.

“Deputies began checking the location for any occupants that may have been injured in the explosion,” he said. “While checking the location, Santa Clarita Valley Sheriff’s Station patrol deputies saw what appeared to be evidence of a possible ‘honey oil lab,’” he said.

A lab used to extract hash oil from marijuana is commonly referred to by deputies as a “honey oil lab.”

No suspects were arrested, Bergner said late Wednesday afternoon.

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The house i the 1700 block of North Beverly Street caught fire Monday when a honey oil lab exploded, according to the Porterville Police Department. An occupant suffered severe burns.

Posted: Wednesday, December 17, 2014 8:34 am

By KELLI BALLARD kballard@portervillerecorder.com

A 23-year-old Porterville man was severely burned Monday night when the honey oil lab he was operating exploded and caught his house on fire, according to the Porterville Police Department (PPD).

Arturo Rodriguez suffered severe burns to his upper body and was flown to Community Regional Medical Center in Fresno where he is listed in critical but stable condition. Honey oil, also known as hash oil, is a concentrated derivative of marijuana.

The explosion happened around 8 p.m. Monday in the 1700 block of North Beverly Street. The Porterville Fire Department (PFD) arrived with three engines at 8:11 p.m.

“When the [first] engine arrived there was heavy fire in the northwest corner,” said Reggie Calo, public information officer for the PFD.

Much of the fire was in the attic. The first responding fire engine battled the blaze in the livable space of the home. When other engines arrived, including two from the Tulare County Fire Department, crews worked to control the attic fire and were able to bring it under control by 9:10 p.m.

PPD officers arrived to assist in the fire, but were dispatched to Sierra View Medical center where Rodriguez was in the emergency department suffering from severe burns.

According to police, an investigation of the residence revealed evidence of a harvested marijuana garden and the fire was caused by a honey oil extraction laboratory. Police said Rodriguez’s injuries and the structure fire were caused by the explosion, which identified him as a suspect.

“They [officers] found remnants of a garden and what probably would have been the honey oil lab before it exploded,” said PPD Sgt. Dominic Barteau.

A police investigation revealed Jorge Beltran, 25, and Rodriguez lived at the residence. According to police, Beltran had allegedly grown and harvested marijuana and provided it to Rodriguez to make the honey oil. Rodriguez was converting the marijuana shake into honey oil when the explosion occurred.

Barteau said people use butane to extract the THC (tetrahydrocannabinol) out of marijuana plants.

“It is highly potent,” he said. “That concentrated resin is what gives a person that high.”

The fire was caused by using butane inside the residence to process the drug, the PFD said in a press release. An accumulation of flammable vapor ignited, causing the fire.

“The unfortunate thing is, with marijuana, people want to take it to the next level,” Barteau said. “They’re not just growing medical marijuana; they keep changing it and making it more dangerous.”

After the explosion, Rodriguez was transported to Sierra View Medical Center by a friend who had been visiting the residence at the time.

Detectives obtained a search warrant for the home and found evidence of the laboratory, plus about 20 pounds of marijuana shake and a loaded AR-15 assault rifle. The rifle belonged to Beltran.

Beltran was arrested on suspicion of possession of an assault weapon, possession of a high-capacity magazine, possession of marijuana for sale, maintaining a residence for drug use, manufacturing concentrated cannabis and conspiracy. He’s lodged at the Tulare County Jail in lieu of $250,000 bail.

Damage is estimated at $29,000 to the home and $2,000 to its contents.

Rodriguez remains hospitalized, and has not yet been charged. “He is a victim of himself,” Barteau said of Rodriguez.

http://www.cpr.org/news/story/home-hash-oil-production-illegal-colorado-ag-says



Home hash oil production is illegal, Colorado AG says
By CPR News Staff and The Associated Press Dec 30, 2014

A home destroyed by an explosion triggered by someone trying to produce homemade hash oil, according to the Rocky Mountain High-Intensity Drug Trafficking Area office.
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Colorado's top law enforcement official says manufacturing high-potency marijuana oil is not legal under the state's first-in-the-nation recreational marijuana law.

State Attorney General John Suthers wrote in a court brief Tuesday that the law prohibits the dangerous production of hash oil, which has caused a number of fiery explosions and injuries this year as pot users try to make it at home. Some prosecutors have been charging individual hash oil creators with felonies while others have not pursued criminal charges at all.

Suthers filed a brief in response to a western Colorado man's contention that Mesa County prosecutors improperly charged him with a crime for manufacturing hash oil.

“Amendment 64 expressly prohibits an individual from making marijuana oil and unfortunately, Colorado is experiencing a real public safety issue as a result of unsafe and unlicensed manufacturing and production,” Suthers said in a statement on Tuesday. “The Blue Book made it clear that Amendment 64 allowed for the responsible and safe use of marijuana, so to decriminalize dangerous and unreasonable behavior in which people are getting hurt and houses are blowing up, defies the intent of the voters.”

An attorney for Eugene Christenson in Mesa County argued in a court filing that the substance is legal under Amendment 64.

What makes the manufacture of hash oil so dangerous is the use of invisible explosive gases, such as butane or propane, in the hash-oil manufacture process. To make it, marijuana is ground up and packed into an extraction tube. Gas is then forced into the tube, creating a highly-intoxicating concentrate of THC, the active ingredient in marijuana. The result is a honey-like substance -- or “butter” -- that can be used in edibles or heated and inhaled.

Since the beginning of the year, dozens of fires caused by home hash oil manufacturers have been recorded in Denver area alone, according to Kevin Wong, a data analyst for the White House’s Rocky Mountain High-Intensity Drug Trafficking Area.

“There are instances where this has happened in single-family residences -- detached homes,” Wong told Colorado Matters earlier this year. “These have happened in shared-wall condos or townhomes. These have happened in apartment complexes, in hotels, motels. These have even happened in moving vehicles. There are also cases in the Denver-metro area where there are commercial buildings that these have happened outside of, such as marijuana dispensaries or medical marijuana retail stores.”

Wong declined to provide specific addresses of the incidents that have also occurred in Grand Junction, Colorado Springs, Leadville, Broomfield and Aurora.

After the rash of explosions and fires in Denver, Mayor Michael Hancock proposed making it a municipal violation to make hash oil at home. The ordinance would require home hash-oil production to use only water-based or food-based methods.

Suthers filed the latest brief in Denver District Court, after the earlier Mesa County filing.

“Under any serious view, reading Amendment 64 to decriminalize dangerous and unreasonable home manufacturing defies the form of reasonable and responsible behavior that the Amendment intended to allow,” the brief says.

http://www.durangoherald.com/article/20141231/NEWS01/141239939/-1/News


DO NOT BLAST IN A HOUSE OR IN A RESIDENTIAL AREA, PEOPLE ARE RIGHTFULLY GETTING VERY PISS'D OFF. IF YOU KNOW OF SOMEONE DOING THIS TELL THEM TO STOP. A CLOSED SYSTEM SEEMS TO BE A MUST FOR BUTANE EXTRACTION, THERE HAS BEEN NO FIRE'S OR EXPLOSIONS TO MY KNOWLEDGE. PLEASE POST TO THIS WEB SITE ABOUT A CLOSED FIRE OR EXPLOSION, VERIFY WITH NEWS STORY.


Colorado Attorney General John Suthers opined that home butane-hash oil extractions are illegal. The products can be used to make marijuana-infused foods or concentrates to smoke.

DENVER – Explosions from marijuana butane-hash oil extractions have not plagued La Plata County.

But Republican Attorney General John Suthers worries that safety hazards could proliferate if consumers continue to produce the concentrate at home.

Suthers’ office filed a brief in Mesa County, opining that Amendment 64, passed by voters in 2012 to legalize marijuana, did not authorize extraction of butane hash oil.

“Amendment 64 expressly prohibits an individual from making marijuana oil, and unfortunately, Colorado is experiencing a real public-safety issue as a result of unsafe and unlicensed manufacturing and production,” Suthers said in a statement.

He said that the voter guide presented in 2012 made it clear that the constitutional amendment legalized the use of marijuana but not the individual production of concentrates.

“To decriminalize dangerous and unreasonable behavior in which people are getting hurt and houses are blowing up defies the intent of the voters,” Suthers said.

Concentrates are made through an extraction process that uses a solvent, like butane, to eliminate all plant matter, leaving users with a product that is extremely high in potency.

Examples include oil, shatter and earwax. It is also used to bake into foods.

But the solvents can be highly flammable, which has led to a string of incidents involving home explosions.

Suthers filed the court brief after a Mesa County man was charged for manufacturing hash oil, resulting in an explosion that injured him and damaged his home. The man’s attorney is arguing that hash oil production is legal under Amendment 64, which allows for the processing of marijuana plants.

Suthers’ opinion could assist in directing the outcome of the case, which might set a clear precedent.

Licensed marijuana businesses are permitted to produce hash oil using butane, but they must follow a long list of strict rules and regulations. Those cooking at home, however, are not following the same guidelines in many cases.

Statewide, firefighters reported at least 32 butane-hash oil explosions, nearly three times the number reported in previous years, according to the Rocky Mountain High Intensity Drug Trafficking Area. There have been reports of at least 30 injuries.

La Plata County, however, has been spared many major incidents.

Karola Hanks, fire marshal for the Durango Fire Protection District, said she has heard of only one incident about a year ago. But she believes there are more out there that the district has not heard of.

She pointed out that it is as easy as searching YouTube for videos on how to make butane hash oil.

“I would encourage people not to do it. It is extremely dangerous, and the type of injuries that result have lifetime consequences. I hope that we don’t see it,” Hanks said.

Regulation, however, can be very difficult. Buying large quantities of butane requires a license. And in La Plata County, gas distributors don’t appear to be selling butane to someone without a permit.

But Hanks said producers can easily drive into New Mexico to purchase large quantities and bring it back to Colorado. Hanks also pointed out that cooks can go to a home-improvement store and buy cases of butane camping bottles.

“The problem is going to be that the enforcement is going to have to be on the sale of butane, and that is going to be a challenge,” Hanks said, pointing out that butane is used for a long list of perfectly legal activities.

District Attorney Todd Risberg agreed that La Plata County has not seen a major problem. But he hopes the courts will offer clarity for how his office can proceed when cases arise.

“Local governments also have the authority to regulate the extraction process as Cortez, Telluride and Denver have already done,” Risberg said. “Regardless of the legal outcome, it’s a horrible idea to risk your life, your family and your home with butane extraction.”

Many, even in the marijuana industry, have called for regulations on butane-hash oil extractions. Bill Delaney, owner of Good Earth Meds, a dispensary in Pagosa Springs, said he “hates” the concept of people producing concentrates at home.

“People just get a kick out of it, to be doing something at home,” Delaney said. “But there’s plenty of legal products available for them if they need it. Playing with explosive gases in the home for any purpose is not a good idea.”

Smart Colorado, an organization dedicated to protecting children from marijuana, said it hopes a clear precedent is set that producing butane hash oil at home is illegal.

“With people doing this in neighborhoods, and they don’t necessarily know what they’re doing, and they have explosions, it goes beyond just affecting them,” said Gina Carbone, a spokeswoman for Smart Colorado. “Obviously, it’s a safety issue in the neighborhoods, and with children living in the house or next to the house.”

http://www.palmbeachpost.com/news/n...e-questioning-resident-regarding-hash-/njdXF/


Stuart police questioning resident regarding hash lab explosion




Update, 3 p.m. Stuart police announced today they have arrested two people in connection with a butane hash oil lab explosion that occurred in a home Tuesday.

Anna Rae Kellogg, of Stuart, and Daniel Paul Vranich, of Lake Park, were arrested after they turned themselves in to police Wednesday morning.
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Kellogg

Kellogg, 21, and Vranich, 31, both face charges of manufacturing of narcotics, drug trafficking, two counts of abuse/neglect of a child and failure to report a dangerous fire. Kellogg is being held at the Martin County Jail in lieu of $35,250. Vranich is also being held at the jail in lieu of $55,000 bail.

Original story: A resident of a Stuart home that was the scene of a hash oil lab explosion Tuesday has turned herself in to police.

Anna Rae Kellogg, 21, is currently being questioned after turning herself in Wednesday around 11:20 a.m.
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Vranich

Police were called to the Villa Bella Central Park Townhouses on the 40 block of Southeast Sedona Circle around 4 a.m. on Tuesday and discovered a fire caused by butane that extracts oils from marijuana.

No one was injured but 35 residents were evacuated from the building.

http://koin.com/2014/12/18/feds-file-charges-in-hash-oil-explosions/


Edwin Stacy nominated for Darwin Award, lights cigarette while making BHO in apartment.


Feds file charges in hash oil explosions
US Attorney Amanda Marshall: ‘Manufacturing hash oil poses a significant risk to families…’
By Brent Weisberg (Twitter: @BrentKOIN) Published: December 18, 2014, 5:51 pm Updated: December 18, 2014, 5:57 pm

Edwin Stacy. 56, shown in a jail booking photo , is one of three total people indicted by the federal government. Edwin Stacy. 56, shown in a jail booking photo , is one of three total people indicted by the federal government.
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Hash oil explodes in Portland apartment, 1 hurt
Food mart bathroom explodes in hash oil attempt

PORTLAND, Ore. (KOIN 6) – Federal prosecutors have filed charges in two separate explosions involving hash oil.

Jose Rios-Soto and Dennis Tapia-Garcia have both been indicted in connection with an explosion and fire at the 76 gas station in the 10700 block of Southwest Greenburg Road in Tigard. Both are charged with endangering human life while manufacturing controlled substances and manufacturing hash oil. The blast occurred Nov. 23.
Two men were severely burned when they tried to make hash oil in this bathroom of a Tigard convenience store, Nov. 23, 2014 (TVF&R)Two men were severely burned when they tried to make hash oil in this bathroom of a Tigard convenience store, Nov. 23, 2014 (TVF&R)

Edwin Stacy is charged with the same crimes in connection with the December 8 explosion and fire at a Portland apartment complex in Southeast Portland. Police were called to the complex after getting reports of a disturbance. When officers arrived, they learned there had been an explosion that had enough force to blow out an exterior wall one to two feet, investigators said. The blast occurred when Stacy lit a cigarette while using butane gas to make hash oil.

According to the United States Attorney’s Office “hash oil is produced by extracting the cannabinoids from plant material with a solvent. The explosions are caused by the chemical extraction process in which butane gas is used to extract the tetrahydrocannabinol or THC from the marijuana plat. During the extraction process, the gas can quickly fill an enclosed space, and be ignited by something as ordinary as a pilot light, a spark from an electrical outlet or someone lighting a cigarette or joint.”

“An explosion and fire caused by hash oil production at a Portland apartment complex and a Tigard 76 gas station could have caused serious injuries to unaware bystanders,” Oregon’s U.S. Attorney Amanda Marshall said in a prepared statement. “We will not allow this dangerous conduct to endanger the public.”

If convicted on all charges, the three people could be sentenced to 15 years in prison, according to prosecutors.

January 1st, have a safe, prosperous and healthful year.


Apparently people don't believe their lying eyes when they read stories of butane explosions, they just keep on frying themselves, their families, their dog and cats, their neighbors, their guests and everything they own. Just in the last 5 days I've found 7 or 8 explosions and fires from butane extractions in homes or apartments and I wasn't looking hard, I wonder how many people out in the world there are self-immolating themselves daily that don't make the papers.

GW say's the fireball from a butane explosion is OVER 3000 degree's and is hot enough to melt steel or fry your eye's like eggs, what is hard to understand about not doing this with out a closed system at least. Just for the hell of it jam a lit cigar in the inside of your elbow, now try to imagine that you have a burn that goes from the top of your head to your belly button and that fat on you body has caught fire. Only takes one mistake and your screwed, your good buddy walks in smoking, your wife lights a ciggy, the fumes reach refrigerator, the static electricity from your shirt, its a crap shoot and its odds and probabilities, if it can happen it will happen eventually to some one; maybe you.

jump /injack said:

January 1st, have a safe, prosperous and healthful year.


Apparently people don't believe their lying eyes when they read stories of butane explosions, they just keep on frying themselves, their families, their dog and cats, their neighbors, their guests and everything they own. Just in the last 5 days I've found 7 or 8 explosions and fires from butane extractions in homes or apartments and I wasn't looking hard, I wonder how many people out in the world there are self-immolating themselves daily that don't make the papers.

GW say's the fireball from a butane explosion is OVER 3000 degree's and is hot enough to melt steel or fry your eye's like eggs, what is hard to understand about not doing this with out a closed system at least. Just for the hell of it jam a lit cigar in the inside of your elbow, now try to imagine that you have a burn that goes from the top of your head to your belly button and that fat on you body has caught fire. Only takes one mistake and your screwed, your good buddy walks in smoking, your wife lights a ciggy, the fumes reach refrigerator, the static electricity from your shirt, its a crap shoot and its odds and probabilities, if it can happen it will happen eventually to some one; maybe you.

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G`day JIJ

I appreciate the message you are communicating .

But the highlighted quote is the key . These people obviously don`t read the news and don`t watch TV . They are too busy running around collecting trim and cases of butane . To be informed .

Sadly,Darwinism at play .

Thanks for sharin

EB .

http://denver.cbslocal.com/2014/12/16/butane-hash-making-causes-home-explosion-in-fort-collins/


Neighbors reported a loud boom that shook their homes in the 2600 block of Timberwood Drive in southeast Fort Collins.

Nobody was hurt but there was some damage to the home where the explosion happened.

Butane hash is a concentrated form of marijuana. There have been numerous explosions in residential areas because the process is so dangerous.

Neighbors reported a loud boom that shook their homes in the 2600 block of Timberwood Drive in southeast Fort Collins.

Nobody was hurt but there was some damage to the home where the explosion happened.

Butane hash is a concentrated form of marijuana. There have been numerous explosions in residential areas because the process is so dangerous.

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DO NOT BLAST IN A HOUSE OR IN A RESIDENTIAL AREA, PEOPLE ARE RIGHTFULLY GETTING VERY PISS'D OFF. IF YOU KNOW OF SOMEONE DOING THIS TELL THEM TO STOP.

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are you telling everyone what to do here? are these your words or part of the news story?

I dont think you can tell us all how to conduct our business and have a leg to stand on, but its good to be safe! I dont advocate doing anything risking anyone's well being other then your own.

"I dont think you can tell us all how to conduct our business and have a leg to stand on"

Jump is telling people not to do something that is clearly and highly dangerous. I can't see any justification for this attitude and response other than "I don't like being told what to do." Imagine if he'd said don't drink and drive, same issue of someone's actions putting themselves and others at risk - would your response have been "are you telling people what to do? You don't have a leg to stand on."?

If you're doing something that puts yourself at risk, and your neighbors at risk, you deserve to be called out on it. It's a dangerous act to blast inside of a building without a closed-loop system. When people are getting injured by the poor decisions of another person the criticizer has a leg to stand on.

Hashmasta-Kut said:

I dont advocate doing anything risking anyone's well being other then your own.

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Then why are you getting all defensive when he is very specifically saying don't blast in a house, in a residential area, which puts people other than yourself in danger? That was a strange reaction, in my opinion.

Luther Burbank said:

"I dont think you can tell us all how to conduct our business and have a leg to stand on"

Jump is telling people not to do something that is clearly and highly dangerous. I can't see any justification for this attitude and response other than "I don't like being told what to do." Imagine if he'd said don't drink and drive, same issue of someone's actions putting themselves and others at risk - would your response have been "are you telling people what to do? You don't have a leg to stand on."?

If you're doing something that puts yourself at risk, and your neighbors at risk, you deserve to be called out on it. It's a dangerous act to blast inside of a building without a closed-loop system. When people are getting injured by the poor decisions of another person the criticizer has a leg to stand on.

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He said "EXCEPT YOURSELF". If a person wishes to perform dangerous stunts for fun, excitement, or profit who are we to stop them.

Our personal rights or safety aren't effected by daredevils performing stunts, that cannot harm others, therefore we can't tell them what to do.

I don't open blast, but I have in the past and I don't advocate cages for humans who don't harm OTHERS.

Hydrosun said:

Our personal rights or safety aren't effected by daredevils performing stunts, that cannot harm others, therefore we can't tell them what to do.

I don't open blast, but I have in the past and I don't advocate cages for humans who don't harm OTHERS.

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I have open blasted before but would not do it again, there were no news stories everyday about explosions, fires and child endangerment back then. That is longer the case.
Their are so many cases that the attorney general of Co has labeled extracting BHO as manufacturing a controlled substance, punishable to up to 5 years.. Good job Fucktards.

If I saw my neighbor open blasting I would get my fire extinguisher out and soak that motherfucker or a ass wuppin is a nice quick lesson that will not impact his life like a jail sentence.
Some people are to stupid to evolve without some encouragement.

Buy a closed loop, do lots of research before operating or hire a consultant, run small batches at first, to minimize danger, I did several 6''x1.5''columns before I ran my 3''x36'' column.

I don't think the daredevil analogy works to justify this. Daredevils usually are aware of the danger they're putting themselves in, and open-blasting in a home, or motel, or apartment, is rarely a situation where only one person could get hurt. The actions of an individual rarely just affect the individual. Even if you have one guy blasting alone in his house in the woods, if it blows up the fire department which other taxpayers or volunteers support has to come out to put it out.

I have a hard time articulating this so apologies if this seems offensive - many here in the United States born at a certain time were made to fetishize these ideas of liberty and freedom, and I don't think most people really understand what they mean. They just associate it with that feel-good "'MERICA! DON'T TREAD ON ME!" attitude. The tail is wagging the dog right now; instead of the discussion being centered on the action itself- dangerous open blasting, some of y'all want to justify it for the sake of upholding some John Locke style natural rights of an individual. We're all greatly interconnected and I don't think it's realistic to make strawman arguments about freedom when the evidence shows that the vast majority of these explosions hurt other people and cause damage to the property of others.