[jump /injack]

Bloomberg TV has this on dabbing and explosions

https://www.bloomberg.com/video/the-d...UY2w77xuQ.html

[hush]

After all these horror stories and predictable disasters, people are continuing to make BHO in the middle of residential areas. It's like no one cares! This is not going to end well for cannabis. And it's all because people feel entitled to play chemistry in their house, even though they aren't bright enough to know how stupid they are.

This just isn't going to end well for legalization.

[jump /injack]

https://www.katu.com/news/local/Two-a...239598631.html


FOREST GROVE, Ore. – Firefighters in Forest Grove believe an explosion and two-alarm fire that seriously injured one person was caused by someone making hashish oil.
The fire started at a home near the Pacific University campus, at Main Street and 22nd Avenue around 4 a.m. Friday.
Crews said they found smoke billowing out of the house when they arrived.
The fire was completely out by 5:30 a.m. Firefighters said it was never a threat to surrounding homes.
Five people were inside the home during the explosion. One person escaped by jumping out of a second-floor window, firefighters said.
One person was taken to a hospital with serious burns. None of the others needed to go a hospital.
Firefighters said witnesses told them the explosion was caused by someone making hashish oil, which is concentrated marijuana. Its production can be a fire risk because it's prepared using butane.

Drug investigators were called to the scene.
Friday's blast was the second involving hash oil in the last year in Forest Grove. In March 2013, five people were hurt in a hash oil cooking explosion. One man was arrested.

[It has taken years to get cannabis legalized and now this. Just a question here, if you lived in an apartment building with your family and found out that the next door neighbor was using butane extraction methods without asking your permission what would you do to that person? Just pretend that you love your parents and children and that they can be made into walking, running screaming torches at anytime because the guy next door is doing his trick in the kitchen.]

[jump /injack]

https://www.oregonlive.com/forest-gro...hows_hash.html

[This is an update of the Forest Grove explosion and fire, it has video of the house blowing up, 3 animals dead, one person in serious condition and 4 others looking at some jail time; the fireball from a butane explosion is over 3000 degrees, it'll melt your eyes.]

Pacific University surveillance video released by police shows a Forest Grove home go up in flames after a hash oil explosion early Friday.
The two-alarm fire was reported about 4 a.m. in the 1900 block of 22nd Avenue and injured three people, including a man in his 20s in critical condition at Legacy Emanuel Medical Center's Burn Center, according to Forest Grove police. Footage of the explosion and fire were captured by security cameras in a nearby parking lot at the university.
Related: Forest Grove hash oil explosion leaves man in critical condition, police say

Three cats were killed in the fire, which was caused by one resident attempting to make hashish oil, Forest Grove Fire & Rescue said. That resident was the man being treated at Legacy Emanuel, according to the agency.
Five people and a pet snake were displaced by the blaze and everything in the main portion of the home was destroyed, the fire department said. More than 40 firefighters responded to the scene needing 25 minutes to extinguish the majority of the flames only for them to flare up again about 7:30 a.m.
No arrests have been made and the incident is still under investigation.
-- Everton Bailey Jr.

[gaiusmarius]

this is really making me sick, how the fuck can people still be doing it wrong? how many explosions do we need before there is some sense in the canna scene.

[SkyHighLer]

Originally Posted by gaiusmarius

this is really making me sick, how the fuck can people still be doing it wrong? how many explosions do we need before there is some sense in the canna scene.

Originally Posted by SkyHighLer

Our experience is with solvents that are liquid at ambient temperatures, such as alcohol, acetone, paint thinners, and gasoline. The mistake being made is equating our experience with these to some liquid butane sitting in a dish.

The common solvents we work with daily, when spilled and ignited, flash up and then burn on and on as the liquid slowly vaporizes before combustion. Spill a dish of butane and ignite it and it instantly vaporizes on contact with anything above it's boiling point of about 35F, and then flashes completely, explosion!

Sure we use propane torches and BBQ grills, but we don't have experience with the danger of quantities of exposed flammable liquids that are gases at ambient.

That's the answer, but I don't know how to word it to get the point across.

^ That's my answer, and education is the key. We should have a short video that we insist every potential extractor view showing the difference in explosiveness of butane compared to the other solvents we are familiar with in our daily lives, like gasoline, alcohol, acetone, and the other common solvents found at any hardware store in the US. The video would show the flash from ignition of a pyrex dish filled with the same amounts of the most common solvents along with the explosion from the same amount of liquid butane. The contrast should be black and white, and scare the crap out of even the idiots...

[jump117]

Originally Posted by jump /injack

Three cats were killed in the fire, which was caused by one resident attempting to make hashish oil, Forest Grove Fire & Rescue said.

Very sorry for cats.

[Thomas Paine]

"He says fires in the Seattle area often come with a particular twist: They start with exploding refrigerators. Apparently, some people put their marijuana-butane marinade in the freezer. "Maybe the process works better when it's colder," O'Quinn says.

Most freezers have a fan, which then circulates the volatile butane fumes into the rest of the refrigerator, "down to where the compressor is," he explains. "A small spark will set it off, and it generally blows the door off."

https://www.npr.org/2014/01/10/261390...y-and-kitchens

[gaiusmarius]

Originally Posted by Thomas Paine

"He says fires in the Seattle area often come with a particular twist: They start with exploding refrigerators. Apparently, some people put their marijuana-butane marinade in the freezer. "Maybe the process works better when it's colder," O'Quinn says.

Most freezers have a fan, which then circulates the volatile butane fumes into the rest of the refrigerator, "down to where the compressor is," he explains. "A small spark will set it off, and it generally blows the door off."

https://www.npr.org/2014/01/10/261390...y-and-kitchens

this is an interesting explanation, i wonder if it is fully correct though. if the butane is frozen it shouldn't make any gas? also when i look at my freezer, there is no ventilation, it's a sealed box. i think the explanation of the butane collecting on the floor and reaching a spark from the fridge that way is more plausible. there again i'm no chemist, maybe GW will give us his take. it is important as there are a couple of threads where people are winterizing, so all the potential danger of this process in various freezers should be considered.

[SkyHighLer]

Originally Posted by gaiusmarius

this is an interesting explanation, i wonder if it is fully correct though. if the butane is frozen it shouldn't make any gas? also when i look at my freezer, there is no ventilation, it's a sealed box. i think the explanation of the butane collecting on the floor and reaching a spark from the fridge that way is more plausible. there again i'm no chemist, maybe GW will give us his take. it is important as there are a couple of threads where people are winterizing, so all the potential danger of this process in various freezers should be considered.

All the refrigerators I've had for decades have had a fan and an auto-defrost cycle.

The propane in canned butane has a boiling point of -44 F (-42.2222 °C) NIOSH TX2275000, plenty of pressure at normal freezer temperatures. I freeze a can or two before use, but don't store it long term in the freezer. I seal it up in bag so if I open the freezer door and the bag has expanded, and I'm not already fried, I know I've got a critical situation to deal with...