Originally Posted by SooperSmurph

As you can see from my images and last side by side, I prefer to let my clones develop a larger root system in the machine before transplant, and this large root structure is typically ready between days 12 and 16.

I also let my cuts develop extremely large root systems before t/ping into desired medium. This helps the clones continue to grow with absolutely 0 stall. Matter of fact.....with the EZ-C, the cuts continue to grow abit while rooting. Thats a huuuuge +
for SOG type grows that require only 1 or 2 weeks of veg before the flip to 12/12.







Heres before and after the t/p into 3gln grow bags.
At T/P - Day 1 ~


14 days later ~


I posted this to confirm with you and everyone else that your findings arent tainted and you are getting the right/same results as me.
You have it down pact my brother.
The larger, healthier, more vigorous cuts you take, and the longer and thicker root systems that you can develop before t/p, means faster taking, healthier clones, that maintain great vigor with 0 stall.
Thank You for posting all this, for us growers to learn and grow better plants from clone.
Your truly a master.

Originally Posted by Crusader Rabbit

I somehow missed this question earlier, which was directed to me.

Don't worry about it, the "Control" data from the previous run will be more "Pure" anyway, making it higher quality and better for posterity. Ty for your continued attendance and input.

Originally Posted by Alone

Thank You for posting all this, for us growers to learn and grow better plants from clone.
Your truly a master.

Nah, i'm still very much an amateur, I just hope that my experiences and data can help others while I continue to learn what this plant has to teach me.

[Crusader Rabbit]

I think that having both "controls", from the previous run and in the present EZ Cloner run, will provide important information.

[Drift13]

Subscribed and I'm sure hoping this will improve my cloning ability. I use a 5 gallon bucket w/ lid that has 8 spots drilled out for pucks. So needless to say I hoping to learn much from y'all.

[Crooked8]

I have to be honest the larger developed root systems out of the cloner give me mixed vibes. Ive let them go in the cloner for an extra week or even two and yes they do actually start to grow a bit in the cloner. However, once I've transplanted into a medium(rock wool) I've felt the ones that had just popped a few days ago with maybe a few 3 inch roots were the ones that took off best for me. I haven't done any side by side stuff so this is great info smurph. Your roots look really white and healthy although they are large, sometimes if i let my cloner go that long the roots start to turn light tan. I wonder why? Also I'm wondering if u wait that extra week or so for the development of the larger roots, are you really benefiting when you're holding off on veg time within a medium? How long did you let those go?

An EZ-Cloner will push out 3" of roots in 1 day easy.

In soil...or desired medium....it can take 4-5 days to grow the same 3" of roots so I would have to say NO it doesnt take away from growing/vegging time.

[TripleDraw27]

Originally Posted by Alone

An EZ-Cloner will push out 3" of roots in 1 day easy.

In soil...or desired medium....it can take 4-5 days to grow the same 3" of roots so I would have to say NO it doesnt take away from growing/vegging time.

If ez cloners did 3 inch roots in a day " easy", there would be 5 million threads on it and not a continous " how to achieve better clones" topics. You should say that this is your personal take, what u said sounds like some mouth breather at a hydro shop trying to sell a giant order of ez clone machines he is sitting on.

This is not my personal take and dont tell me what I can and cannot say!
Obviously you dont know squat about an EZ-Cloner!
HERES PROOF .....now piss off! Calling me out as a troll.....LOL
Once I see bumps....the cuts have 8" - 12" roots within 4 days. Not on just 1 strain either. Alot of dif genetics that root the same way, give or take a couple inches of roots.
2 days before~


Next day...3"+ of roots grown~


2 days after ~ 6"+ roots grown. GOT THE TRUTH NOW!....Good!


Sorry SooperSmurph.....but dude needed to be put in his place......
Now everyone go to www.stuffedwarehouse.com and buy all the EZ-Cloners I have in stock! Great Deals! LMFAO!!

Sad news, a power outage at my home resulted in the deaths of several test subjects, so I am forced to declare a restart which will take place on 7/29/13.

Until then please enjoy the taste test results for my soil side by side, and my various breeder test threads, all of which are linked in my sig.

That sucks. Plenty of time to do it again. Love the soil side x side thread you got going.
Thanx for all your helpful input on these subjects.