Originally Posted by Crusader Rabbit

People seem to think the effect of the excess gel on the "Control" group may be a significant factor, ...

5mls of Clonex gel in 5 gallons of res solution is not really significant, but it doesn't matter because I already have that data, so it's a lot easier to save myself the repeated posts.

[Crusader Rabbit]

How do you know it wouldn't be a factor?

Originally Posted by Crusader Rabbit

How do you know it wouldn't be a factor?

I can't technically be sure because my ppm meter isn't functioning, so I don't have a way of measuring the amount of actives being added to the res, I know from tests performed last night that 5mls of Clonex did not alter the Ph of a 5 gallon bucket of filtered water, but without the ppm data, I simply can't make an assertion either way. Much easier to leave it moot and use existing data.

[Crusader Rabbit]

Originally Posted by SooperSmurph

I can't technically be sure because my ppm meter isn't functioning, ... , but without the ppm data, I simply can't make an assertion either way.

You know the critical ppm of hormone in solution that will affect rooting?

Originally Posted by Crusader Rabbit

You know the critical ppm of hormone in solution that will affect rooting?

Nope, but Clonex gel is about 3000 ppms, so, if I were to wager a guess i'd say the minimum amount to affect rooting is somewhere around 5% of the Clonex dosage, or 150ppm.

5mls of Clonex (if we accept the .3% labeled concentration) in 5 gallons of water shouldn't bring us anywhere near 150ppm.

Of course, different plants respond to IBA differently, species like Rice, Pomegranites, and Orchids all prefer super low IBA dosages (25 ppm in Rice), Grapes and Citrus fruits like ranges in the 1000s, and Apples simply guzzle it down.

But, again, the issue is moot, data from the previous round will serve just fine as a control.

This post is from the initial cancelled run, images of the current run can be found by clicking here.

As sugggested, Gel clones are allowed to sit for 1 minute before being subjected to the sprayers.


Dip-N-Grow examples are allowed to soak for around 5 seconds, as per the instructions, the solution visibly soaked up into the stalk of the cuttings. I apologize but I was unable to capture a clear image of this.

[farmdalefurr]

You should throw some Azos in the mix

I won't clone without the stuff

[Hammerhead]

I dont use anything. Im using a king cloner its an aero cloner same as Ez. im at 100% since switching over from Rapid rooters...I change the water every 10 days, clean the whole unit every 30 days.

[blackone]

Gotta follow this one - I'm very interested in seeing the results of this trial.

Originally Posted by SooperSmurph

And we're off!

As sugggested, Gel clones were allowed to sit for 1 minute before being subjected to the sprayers.
View Image View Image

Something I forgot to add is that I scrape off 1/4" of the outer bark on 2 sides of the dipped stem.
The "bark", or outerskin, will produce hairy roots, with hairs like a "fern" or "ladder rungs".
The scraped part of the stem will produce noodle like roots. This helps with 2 types of root systems. 1 for nutrient uptake. The other for oxygen uptake.
Ive done alot of research on roots and found this to be the best way.
Maybe that can be your next experiment. LOL!
Scraped bark vs non scraped bark.
Here you can see the noodle roots and the hairy roots. They both have different jobs for the plant.


Its nice to see you posting the results for all to learn. It also confirms my findings as well.
Pretty soon you will be producing the nicest clones you can possibly get without double questioning if you could get better results somehow. Great Job