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Old 07-02-2013, 07:33 AM #1
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בקשר לנמלים

יש לי בית פרטי עם חצר גדולה
עשיתי ריסוס רציני בחצר ובתוך הדירה
אבל עדיין יש נמלים .. אני לא חושב שיהיה.אפשר להיפטר מהם לגמריי
האם נמלים עושים נזק לצמחים ?
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Old 07-02-2013, 08:03 AM #2
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uh, i don't think spraying chemicals will help your condition, probably make it worse.

dont think they can harm plants actually they tunnel in the ground so there will be more oxygen for the plants

balance is the key if the situation is out of control with ants try to balance it by planting many things and layering compost in the soil, you can also remove their habitat (mound) with a shovel but I would focus on planting more things like rosemary, verbena, basil, etc. and plant yor canna in the ground if possible, also adding minerals to the soil can help but i am not sure which ones are available but you can find ideas here https://remineralize.org/

also some people make ant traps by using boric acid. It is toxic to pets so it is mixed with lard (for lard seeking ants or sugar for sugar seeking ants, 2 different kinds) and put into straws so the ants crawl in looking for lard or sugar and crawl out with the boric acid, take it back to the nest and BAM.

hope that makes sense

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Old 07-02-2013, 08:19 AM #3
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uh, i don't think spraying chemicals will help your condition, probably make it worse.

dont think they can harm plants actually they tunnel in the ground so there will be more oxygen for the plants

balance is the key if the situation is out of control with ants try to balance it by planting many things and layering compost in the soil, you can also remove their habitat (mound) with a shovel but I would focus on planting more things like rosemary, verbena, basil, etc. and plant yor canna in the ground if possible, also adding minerals to the soil can help but i am not sure which ones are available but you can find ideas here https://remineralize.org/

also some people make ant traps by using boric acid. It is toxic to pets so it is mixed with lard (for lard seeking ants or sugar for sugar seeking ants, 2 different kinds) and put into straws so the ants crawl in looking for lard or sugar and crawl out with the boric acid, take it back to the nest and BAM.

hope that makes sense

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Thank you for the quick reply!
More or less figured out what to do
If there a guide to prepare this trap you said would love to have
And where i can buy these products in the country?
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Old 07-02-2013, 10:41 AM #4
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נמלים מביאות כנימות והם לא רצויות!!!בגידול אאוטדור אפשר לסבול נמלים אבל באינדור זה אסון אל תתחיל לגדל לפני שאתה נפתר מהנמלים ,תראה איפה הקן שלהם ותן להם ברקן זה לוקח זמן אבל מחסל את הבעיה אם אתה לא מצליח תביא מדביר אל תתחיל לגדל עם בעיות חרקים כי אם יש נמלים יש את החרקים שהנמלים אוכלות וגם החרקים שאוכלים נמלים,סדר וניקיון בחדר הגידול זה מאוד חשוב בלי ניקיון תמיד יהיו בעיות, סמרטוט עם מים ואקונימיקה עובר אצלי על הריצפה כל יום ומונע ים של בעיות ועבודת יתר
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Old 07-02-2013, 11:16 AM #5
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אחי עשיתי הדברה בכל הדירה ובחצר ושמתי פי 3 כמות חומר ממה ששמים !
עדיין יש נמלים !
אם הדברה לא עזרה אז מה לעשות ?
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Old 07-02-2013, 05:22 PM #6
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There are a few ants in my area but I just dont sweat it. I maintain a regular spray schedule in my garden, once a week with neem oil or other botanical teas to increase the plants resistance to insects and mold. Raw garlic spray, made by mixing ten crushed cloves with a liter and straining it into a spray bottle, destroys both pests and molds. If there are a couple ants in my room and they bring other pests in, they will probably all die when I spray my plants as usual. Lavender, rosemary, cilantro and basil, other mints make a great botanical tea. I let the leaves and flowers sit in water for twelve to twenty four hours and then spray the garden...

A year ago or so I also used to clean using economica bleach, etc. then I learned that there are chemicals that get left behind aft the cleaning is done, called organophosphate in the case of bleach. This is not beneficial for cleaning purposes, and I do not need contact with it nor my plants! So I switched to baking soda and vinegar or soap water for cleaning. Dishes also get Eco soap made from plant based alcohols, and natural soap. Since throwing away all the chemicals we have all been happier.

I know that doesn't help your ant problem, but they don't hurt your plants as far as I know so I am not sure how much of a fuss is needed. I can get boric acid and minerals at my local farm and feed supply store, I just don't know which ones may be available in Israel. Look for organics at the Shuk?

Re that websites linked to, any silicate clay or rock dust should work, so I would find your local stone workers and see if they need to throw away the dust from their cuttings, and if you cant pick some up and treat a part of the garden with it. Rock dust increases plant strength and repels insects when mixed with the soil
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There are a few ants in my area but I just dont sweat it. I maintain a regular spray schedule in my garden, once a week with neem oil or other botanical teas to increase the plants resistance to insects and mold. Raw garlic spray, made by mixing ten crushed cloves with a liter and straining it into a spray bottle, destroys both pests and molds. If there are a couple ants in my room and they bring other pests in, they will probably all die when I spray my plants as usual. Lavender, rosemary, cilantro and basil, other mints make a great botanical tea. I let the leaves and flowers sit in water for twelve to twenty four hours and then spray the garden...

A year ago or so I also used to clean using economica bleach, etc. then I learned that there are chemicals that get left behind aft the cleaning is done, called organophosphate in the case of bleach. This is not beneficial for cleaning purposes, and I do not need contact with it nor my plants! So I switched to baking soda and vinegar or soap water for cleaning. Dishes also get Eco soap made from plant based alcohols, and natural soap. Since throwing away all the chemicals we have all been happier.

I know that doesn't help your ant problem, but they don't hurt your plants as far as I know so I am not sure how much of a fuss is needed. I can get boric acid and minerals at my local farm and feed supply store, I just don't know which ones may be available in Israel. Look for organics at the Shuk?

Re that websites linked to, any silicate clay or rock dust should work, so I would find your local stone workers and see if they need to throw away the dust from their cuttings, and if you cant pick some up and treat a part of the garden with it. Rock dust increases plant strength and repels insects when mixed with the soil
tnx man
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Old 07-02-2013, 06:23 PM #8
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אם עשית הדברה בכסף תחזיר את המדביר לסיים את העבודה ותהיה נודניק ואל תצא פרייר כי אם משלמים על הדברה מקבלים תוצאות ולא סיפורים מדביר מקצועי מחסל כל בעיה יש לו רישיון לחומרים שאתה לא יכול להשיג יש חומר שמזריקים לקן רק 50מ"ל והקן מחוסל אל תתחיל לגדל עם נמלים הסיבה היחידה שנמלים באות זה לגדל כנימות
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Old 07-03-2013, 05:55 PM #9
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איפה הקן שלהם אמור להיות ? יש כיוון משו ?
זה חצר של דונם אחי
הכול חולות שיחים
ההדברה אני עשיתי השכרתי מכשיר ריסוס וקניתי גם יומר שלא מוכרים לכל אחד רק למי שיש רישיון ושילמתי 100 שקל למישו במיוחד שיקנה בשבילי
ושמתי פי 3 יותר חומר ממה שמדבירים שמים בטוח !
אולי פשוט אי אפשר להיפטר מהם לגמרי כי יש גם שכנים .. הם יכולים לבוא גם מהם לא ?
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Old 07-03-2013, 10:31 PM #10
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תן ריסוס עם חומר שנקרא כותניון25% על כל השטח זה יעשה את העבודה
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