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catalyte · 01-13-2015, 06:07 AM

i've learned there's alot of misnomers about growing that is spread as "Bro-Science" on here and thru word of mouth...

this place has alot of REAL info too, just really woke up to the fact that cannabis growers have alot of unfounded practices....

waveguide · 01-13-2015, 06:04 PM

something i didn't learn...

..now i've done enough grows to see dozens of strains and watch a few of them go through a few generations of breeding, what i've noticed would lead me to have bought less seeds back when i could afford them...

like, a lot of ppl get one freebie and grow it and say "oh that was okay" or whatever, but what i'm noticing now is that one plant of a strain does not represent it's genetic potential..

..like if i get one seed and it's a sickly, slow growing plant with short internodes, and breed it with a strain that's relatively stable, the offspring don't just look like the two plants mashed together.. there are ones that may have very long internodes et c.. i notice a lot of genetic variation in offspring.

in fact, i notice that the hybrids i create seem more often to have the desirable traits, like crossing them makes them healthier or better or more adaptable. relative to my human perception i'm sure..

..so what i've learned is that if you have 4 freebie strains, what you've actually got is whole lot of breeding potential for good plants than just 4 naff freebie giveaways. like terpenes/taste seems to evolve, not just be A + B.

or maybe i just like seeing the crosses and imagining that one of them is going to be awesome

angelgoob · 07-22-2015, 05:33 AM

If your plant is dying, you're doing it wrong.

If parts of your plant are dying and gradually all the leaves yellow, and it's dying, you're doing it correctly.

Homegro · 09-03-2015, 07:19 PM

I learned I need 50 posts to be able to IM.

NotYourSaviour · 11-07-2015, 09:42 PM

There are lots of people enjoying this plant, too

!

mojave green · 11-09-2015, 02:13 PM

You never know what's behind that keyboard!

weedaholic721 · 12-02-2015, 04:49 AM

Patience

purple_man · 12-02-2015, 08:26 PM

there are as many opinions as assholes

aka, dont trust ish blindly just because some "self proclaimed" expert is hyping it up...

blessss

ganjygav · 12-02-2015, 08:59 PM

This thread is so real. It goes for forums all over the web, Google a question and get 10 different answers with good back up arguments. The differences in opinions and experiences is vast within this hobby of ours. No one is right nor wrong,we all have our own experiences that are relevant to our own grows because no two growers have identical environments and such. Most of the time I follow others advice it brings on new problems.
For instance, when I first started growing I was under the impression that you didn't need to ph when growing in soil. I got that from reading formums,friends who grow and a grow shops owner. For a few grows it didn't appear I needed to either.... Or it was just I wasn't as aware of problems with my plants as I am now, because over the last few grows I kept having issue's, the same issues over and over again.
I searched the internet,asked on the forums and tried different solutions everytime with the same results. The only bit of advice I wouldn't take was that I needed to adjust the ph of my water.
Well my past crop got so bad after 11 weeks of growing I gave up and threw it out.
I finally excepted it might be a ph issue and brought myself the gear needed and guess what, my plants look fan-fuckin-tastic this time.
My point is that there's lots of information out there that might not suit your grow, you just gotta try stuff and find what works for you... And when you do ,don't automatically think that it will apply to everyone else's situation AND certainly don't be ignorant enough to argue with people about who's advice is best like I once was guilty of.

Stay lucky,GG

P.s. I think watering soil till run off everytime is not a good idea hahaha

Huckster79 · 12-26-2015, 06:23 AM

That the ford vs Chevy vs dodge who's truck is better type arguments are amazingly infinite in our world of a million theories.

I'm a full believer that all roads of good will lead to heaven- and as a new grower I've learned here that all roads of any amount of sensibility lead to a harvest of the most wonderful plant in existence...

A plant that in and of itself brings more good to the world. There are so many theories and variations of how to achieve the same end goal.

The saddest thing I've learned on here is some people allow their passions for their method lead to being angry fundamentalists of their theory and are angry at anyone that doesn't believe theirs is the bestest and only right way to grow cannabis!

I love the passion hate the anger I sometimes see... come on now we are cultivating a plant who's effect is one of bringing peace- we should set a better example and enjoy and be fascinated by our differences ( which all almost always both methods work out in end one way or another and usually with a yelled)

We're tokers for Gods sake- can't we all just get along?

01-13-2015, 06:07 AM	#121
catalyte Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: these aren't the droids you're looking for Posts: 2,070	i've learned there's alot of misnomers about growing that is spread as "Bro-Science" on here and thru word of mouth... this place has alot of REAL info too, just really woke up to the fact that cannabis growers have alot of unfounded practices....
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01-13-2015, 06:04 PM	#122
waveguide Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Posts: 1,950	something i didn't learn... ..now i've done enough grows to see dozens of strains and watch a few of them go through a few generations of breeding, what i've noticed would lead me to have bought less seeds back when i could afford them... like, a lot of ppl get one freebie and grow it and say "oh that was okay" or whatever, but what i'm noticing now is that one plant of a strain does not represent it's genetic potential.. ..like if i get one seed and it's a sickly, slow growing plant with short internodes, and breed it with a strain that's relatively stable, the offspring don't just look like the two plants mashed together.. there are ones that may have very long internodes et c.. i notice a lot of genetic variation in offspring. in fact, i notice that the hybrids i create seem more often to have the desirable traits, like crossing them makes them healthier or better or more adaptable. relative to my human perception i'm sure.. ..so what i've learned is that if you have 4 freebie strains, what you've actually got is whole lot of breeding potential for good plants than just 4 naff freebie giveaways. like terpenes/taste seems to evolve, not just be A + B. or maybe i just like seeing the crosses and imagining that one of them is going to be awesome __________________ strain zombie says: straaaaaiiins "I think the prevailing attitudes.. ..that community is completely harmless and beneficial is wishful thinking at best, ignorant and delusional in many cases, and are the "snake oil" of the charlatan in the worst cases." where there is certainty, consideration is absent koala tea seeds
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07-22-2015, 05:33 AM	#123
angelgoob Member Join Date: Jun 2015 Posts: 782	If your plant is dying, you're doing it wrong. If parts of your plant are dying and gradually all the leaves yellow, and it's dying, you're doing it correctly.
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09-03-2015, 07:19 PM	#124
Homegro Member Join Date: Aug 2015 Posts: 56	I learned I need 50 posts to be able to IM.
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11-07-2015, 09:42 PM	#125
NotYourSaviour Member Join Date: Oct 2015 Location: Sol System Posts: 121	There are lots of people enjoying this plant, too!
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11-09-2015, 02:13 PM	#126
mojave green rockin in the free world Join Date: May 2013 Location: The Beatiful Mojave Desert Posts: 2,846	You never know what's behind that keyboard! __________________ https://www.washingtonpost.com/nation...0b9_story.html https://www.webmd.com/food-recipes/or...-better?page=4 https://organicsoiltechnology.com/wp-...s-cultures.pdf https://nevegetable.org/disease-management-0 https://medium.com/ted-fellows/how-t...t-d27df202ba09 https://youtu.be/frXYMd-JUfA https://organiclifestyles.tamu.edu/so...robeindex.html
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12-02-2015, 04:49 AM	#127
weedaholic721 Member Join Date: Feb 2008 Posts: 407	Patience
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12-02-2015, 08:26 PM	#128
purple_man Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: up in smoke Posts: 1,521	there are as many opinions as assholes aka, dont trust ish blindly just because some "self proclaimed" expert is hyping it up... blessss
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12-02-2015, 08:59 PM	#129
ganjygav Cannalise Legabis Join Date: May 2014 Location: Where the sun dont shine Posts: 2,120	This thread is so real. It goes for forums all over the web, Google a question and get 10 different answers with good back up arguments. The differences in opinions and experiences is vast within this hobby of ours. No one is right nor wrong,we all have our own experiences that are relevant to our own grows because no two growers have identical environments and such. Most of the time I follow others advice it brings on new problems. For instance, when I first started growing I was under the impression that you didn't need to ph when growing in soil. I got that from reading formums,friends who grow and a grow shops owner. For a few grows it didn't appear I needed to either.... Or it was just I wasn't as aware of problems with my plants as I am now, because over the last few grows I kept having issue's, the same issues over and over again. I searched the internet,asked on the forums and tried different solutions everytime with the same results. The only bit of advice I wouldn't take was that I needed to adjust the ph of my water. Well my past crop got so bad after 11 weeks of growing I gave up and threw it out. I finally excepted it might be a ph issue and brought myself the gear needed and guess what, my plants look fan-fuckin-tastic this time. My point is that there's lots of information out there that might not suit your grow, you just gotta try stuff and find what works for you... And when you do ,don't automatically think that it will apply to everyone else's situation AND certainly don't be ignorant enough to argue with people about who's advice is best like I once was guilty of. Stay lucky,GG P.s. I think watering soil till run off everytime is not a good idea hahaha __________________ Went to the zoo the other day to watch the monkeys masturbating... Then I I went to see the alligators and I was still masturbating
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12-26-2015, 06:23 AM	#130
Huckster79 Member Join Date: Dec 2015 Location: A little box made out of ticky tacky Posts: 424	That the ford vs Chevy vs dodge who's truck is better type arguments are amazingly infinite in our world of a million theories. I'm a full believer that all roads of good will lead to heaven- and as a new grower I've learned here that all roads of any amount of sensibility lead to a harvest of the most wonderful plant in existence... A plant that in and of itself brings more good to the world. There are so many theories and variations of how to achieve the same end goal. The saddest thing I've learned on here is some people allow their passions for their method lead to being angry fundamentalists of their theory and are angry at anyone that doesn't believe theirs is the bestest and only right way to grow cannabis! I love the passion hate the anger I sometimes see... come on now we are cultivating a plant who's effect is one of bringing peace- we should set a better example and enjoy and be fascinated by our differences ( which all almost always both methods work out in end one way or another and usually with a yelled) We're tokers for Gods sake- can't we all just get along?
	Quote 4 members found this post helpful.