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Old 06-16-2013, 12:27 AM
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Lots of nice pix. I never understood this but...

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If you're worried about what to add between runs just go light. EWC is a given. Kelp is great. Maybe a little neem. Toss your leaf trimmings and such on top as mulch. No need to overdo it with additions, especially if the previous run went well.

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as far as things that i have used recently, i couldn't tell you which is responsible but im getting great growth and everything is the healthiest i have ever had.

thanks to others here in the last month i started using... fresh coconut water, sprout tea, ful-power, and tm-7, in conjunction with aloe, pro-tekt, fish hydrolysate which i have been using for a year or more. the living mulch is helping with moisture retension for sure.

Next is a worm bin and im set.
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Great thread! I haven't looked i here at the organic forums in a while, glad i did.
I'm running recycled soil indoors and out, amended with guanos, kelp, greensand, chicken manure, blood meal, bone meal, mycorrhiza, crab shell, oyster shell, ewc. Outside lots of comfrey and nettle mulch and clover, lupine, pea, and bean living mulch. Got some big holes OD this year, shooting for 2+#ers. Last year i had three of the Sam the skunkman mixed freebies put out over a #, but I wasn't able to really flower them to perfection.
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Old 06-16-2013, 04:45 AM
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Here is some of my outdoor this year......first in a long time.











I have some more pictures. Can only post 5 at a time. I dig the holes rounger than a 5 gallon bucket and deeper. I shave the top layers of soil underneath the grass and mix it with 5 gallons of ROLS......the mix with the DE in it and mix it with the native soil. It is a bit clay based but mixes well and we have had lots of rain so far this year to set the plants good. I has been getting into the 90s here but the plants look good. Just received some rain today and it was a nice amount for the plants. I add alfalfa pellets ans Kelp meal to the holes and a little Neem seed meal with the soil and as a top dress. It has kept the critters back it seems which was my intention to see if it did.
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Old 06-16-2013, 05:50 AM
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Old 06-16-2013, 08:43 AM
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So I was reading the lancaster ag quarterly pamphlet and Dr Paul Dettloff was talking about increasing mineral content in forage grasses and how to improve their protein content and healthy growth rates.
He recommends adding 5 things to foliar sprays


Sugar - Molasses, Diatastic malt
diastatic malt is not a sugar. it is a starch until you get it to about 135-150 for it to be converted into any kind of usable sugar

and frankly I think people are getting way swept away with the malt thing as it is malted at 120-125 degrees f all of the mesophelic enzymes have been denatured so putting it in water does nothing but maybe culture the lactob that happens to be left over from processing. I tired saying it before but apparently having years experience in the field means nothing to some people. real talk

but perhaps there is some X factor I am unaware of
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@ stagger lee do you use the whole biobiz line or just a couple of their products?

i grow with a fully amended recycled soil with botanicals and rock dusts but i like to keep it fairly lean and supplement with a shot of fast release N guano which i know will run out after a few weeks. No teas, i mostly just add water but i also keep a bottle of biobiz bloom handy just in case i want to supplement a bit more. biobiz is pretty cheep an cheerful in the UK and works well for me.
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Old 06-16-2013, 08:58 AM
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bugjar - tell us more about the malt... i thought the starches were converted to sugars during the malting process? i agree its good to be scheptical about the latest wonder fads...
and are you saying the enzymes are no longer intact?
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