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i think would think so
imo most prefer to practice proper aerobic form of composting.decomposing can be done with or with out oxygen (bokashi) but for a speedier more nutrient rich,living diverse, quality compost, its best to do what you can to decompose aerobically. This combines advantages of air, moisture and heat to decompose organic matter Controlled Microbial Composting and Humus Management https://www.ibiblio.org/steved/Luebke...-compost2.html Oxygen or air is required for aerobic composting. Oxygen can be degraded not only by gases caused by anaerobic micro’s but excess ingredients like grass clipping, moist shredded paper and wet leaves. Too much can easily mat down into mushy layers that reduce air circulation. To avoid this, do your best to thoroughly break down or mix all ingredients that might eventually exclude oxygen. Turning the pile is another way to increase oxygen levels; turning is best done by doing your best to “fluff up” ALL the material. Excess water also degrades air, your pile should be as moist as a wrung out sponge to fit proper conditions for beneficial decomposing micro’s. Immoderate amounts of water will also cause material to mat down and lower oxygen levels. Also if the heap is to dry ,the micro’s will leave, die or become dormant till conditions are more suitable. This will dramatically slow down the decomposing process and lower the number of decomposers. So water the bin thoroughly but not excessively! When decomposition occurs in compost, micros will constantly break down material till somewhat stable to stable forms of humus. While they do this the compost goes threw phases, understanding these phases will help you determine when your compost is ready and what organisms your compost may contain. The fist stage is the moderate temperature phase, this usual occurs when and while your adding your ingredients in the first few couple of days. Psychrophiles/cryophiles & mesophiles take over & mesophiles gain in numbers while temps rise to 70-104 degrees. The mesophiles practically consume every thing insight; even each other, competing for food, at the same time generating heat to rise to the second stage of composting. The mesophiles are said to be the real work horses of composting! The second stage or high temperature phase can last for a few days to a few months. Mesophiles become less active, go dormant or get eaten & replaces by the thermophiles. Thermophiles thrive in temps between 90-200 degrees. During this phase seeds, disease and pathogens die from temps or get consumed if some how they survived in the kaotic mesophilc stage. The thermophiles also help break down proteins, fats, cellulose and hemicellulose who would normally take awhile or not breakdown at all. Its best when composting that you avoid prolonged periods of these high temps. Many beneficial will die at these temperatures so turn and add a good amount of carbon material if its been more than a week at these high temps. The thermophiles usually quickly eat all the high energy food and eventually die out. As a result the compost cools down and mesophilic organisms take over, usually with out ther pathogen or diease cousins. This is the final stage or curing/maturing stage; were active organic matter or active humus(containing mostly fulvic acids) can turn to stable humus(containing mostly humic acids) by the mesophilic micro’s, worms and other critters. Finished properly cured compost should have a beautiful earthy smell and may be warm to the touch but should not be hot
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Thermophiles can also be yeasts and actinomycetes, and they also can be facultative [both aerobic and anaerobic. [Just to throw a curveball]
I was paraphasing any Rodale book out there on the subject. The "3rd" stage was my "1st", however the last stage gradually includes some psychrophiles as it loses heat.
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when it comes to the speed of composting, i find that the smaller you can chop up the material an the more often you turn it - the faster it composts. finer also means better texture imo. i have a petrol shredder which has revolutionized my compost speed and quality. obviously woody stuff will take longer still.
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I'm getting to the point where I'll be recycling my soil in a few weeks from my first batch of soil that I made. I was curious as to what you guys typically do when recycling soil. Do you simply just plug another clone in there and let it roll, or do you re-amend the soil with anything such as kelp meal, alfalfa meal, neem cake, etc?
Keep in mind I won't be doing "no-till", I will simply be removing the root ball from the soil and salvaging whatever soil I can and then adding in more fresh soil to make up the difference. Thanks |
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Ahh crap. Just saw the thread started on this very topic down below. My apologies for the redundancy!
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just found out I have this plant in my area. Wild alfalfa. Psoralidium tenuiflorum (Pursh ) Rydb. [=Psoralea tenuiflora Pursh] Perennial Height: 1-4 feet Family: Fabaceae - Bean Family Flowering Period: May, June, July Also Called: Many-flower scurf-pea, scurfy pea. Stems: Erect or ascending, 1 to several, wiry, much-branched, longitudinally ridged, grayish hairy. Leaves: Alternate, short-stalked, palmately compound, stem-leaves 5-foliolate, branch leaves often 3-foliolate; leaflets elliptic to oblanceolate, 1/2 to 2 inches long, 1/4 to 1/2 inch wide, nearly glabrous above, stiff hairy below; margins entire; tips usually blunt or rounded, abruptly short-pointed. Inflorescences: Racemes, elongate, many-flowered, terminal. Flowers: Calyces bell-shaped, 5-lobed, lower lobe slightly longer than 4 upper lobes, conspicuously glandular-dotted; corollas papilionaceous, about 1/4 inch long, light blue to purple, usually in clusters of 2-4, stamens 10, 9 united, 1 free. Fruits: Pods, egg-shaped, smooth, about 1/3 inch long, glandular-dotted; seeds smooth, often shiny, brown. Habitat: Dry sandy or rocky prairies, open woodlands, and roadsides. Distribution: Throughout the Midwest. Forage Value: Livestock do not particularly like it but will consume its early growth or plants cured in prairie hay. Uses: The Lakota treated headaches with a tea made from the roots and burned the plant to ward off mosquitoes. Comments: This native legume resembles alfalfa but has smaller and narrower leaves that grow less densely. Wild alfalfa is fairly drought resistant, with roots going down 10 feet. |
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great you are a botanist, I recognize the lingo from a course I took even if I do not understand it. I hope you can help me post pics as well. thanks
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Volga, you have not figured it out yet?
What would you like us to help you with? |
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Cool stuff. Can anyone help me to increase my resin production on my broccoli?
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Recheck our visitor message conversations to refresh your memory. You offered to help and then went silent. To start with, I got that infranview but don't know how to use it, I try to resize and don't know where to begin. Mainly though, I would like someone who knows about exif data to let me send them a pic or upload a private album and then have a new "friend" check it for me and let me know it has no data attached. thanks
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