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**blazeoneup** · 11-02-2006, 05:18 PM

Well thanks for stopping in, Also check back im going to update this tutorial this weekend to come! Going to add the ebb n flow screens to it as well as clamps on the returns!

**blazeoneup** · 11-05-2006, 11:04 AM

Ok guys i made a few needed changes in the new rebuild, I thought i would share them with you all. I tried to edit it into the tutorial the best i could but i am posting them here as well at the end of the thread

1. I installed ebb n flow screens to help prevent the roots from growing down into the return lines.

2. I used thread tape to insure a good seal on the threads of the ebb n flow fittings.

3. I used hose clamps to clamp the tubing to the fittings to insure 100% leak tight seal.

Now for pictures of the upgrades!

_Dude · 11-14-2006, 12:17 AM

Hey Blaze, have you considered scrapping 90% of the plumbing altogether by placing each row in a plywood tank? You might want to add up the plumbing costs and consider it.

I'm just at the point of kicking the idea around so bear with me. The upside of this is you eliminate all potential plumbing leaks, all potential root blockage, and you can freely adjust bucket spacing when needed. The downside is it requires a lot more water (and nutes) - I'm trying to figure out the best way to lower the water volume in the tanks. I might just end up using rocks or bricks if I do this.
Another possible downside is how to make the tank water tight. If you go with epoxy, you have to use stuff certified for potable water systems, and that stuff is even more expensive than regular epoxy, which is insanely expensive to begin with. I'm thinking I'll just use poly tarps since they're waterproof. I'm sketchy about that since I don't know if they're really waterproof, or just "waterproof." No doubt I'll have to find out before I start.

Just an idea.

**blazeoneup** · 11-14-2006, 10:07 PM

If i done all that it would take up way to much floor space. I assure you i have 2 systems, a 20 bucket system, and a 16 bucket system running right now, Both systems are leak tight and sealed very well.

So no i have not thought of putting them into a tank of any kind, Besides that this system i have is built with no epoxy lol, Or any glues ect for that matter and it is leak tight.

11-14-2006, 11:36 PM

Kick-ass Blaze, love watching you do your thing. You always give us a killer show and all the kickass DIY stuff. Thanks for sharing all your info and grow with us.
Thanks alot,
BG

_Dude · 11-23-2006, 02:25 AM

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Originally Posted by blazeoneup

If i done all that it would take up way to much floor space. I assure you i have 2 systems, a 20 bucket system, and a 16 bucket system running right now, Both systems are leak tight and sealed very well.

So no i have not thought of putting them into a tank of any kind, Besides that this system i have is built with no epoxy lol, Or any glues ect for that matter and it is leak tight.

The floor space wouldn't be much different. The biggest difference is the amount of extra water and nutes needed and the decrease in needed plumbing. If I do build it it won't have any glues or epoxy either, just a plywood tank held together with screws, and some kind of liner for waterproofing (tarp or pond liner).

aeric · 11-24-2006, 01:43 AM

Great additions to the update Blaze. When I saw the pipe tape I was like duuuh...why didn't I think of that b4? Such a simple thing but essential!

**blazeoneup** · 11-24-2006, 02:06 AM

Dude if you built a system like the one built in the updated tutorial, Using the ebb n flow screens, and 3/4" tubing and wrapped thread tape around the threads of the bulkheads, Plus used hose clamps to clamp the hoses the the fittings you would find you have a leak tight system that can be moved around a little its fully flexible

And it is light proofed with no worries on light leaks, Or ways to deal with them plus its just so pretty and clean

Aeric thanks and yeah simple but helps improve the seal even though without it they dont leak

aeric · 11-24-2006, 07:46 AM

yeah I'm definately setting up your system on the next run....hand watering is just getting to be too much of a chore anymore.

One thing I don't know if u mentioned...are u still happy with the GPH on the recirc pump?

_Dude · 12-03-2006, 05:49 AM

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Originally Posted by blazeoneup

Dude if you built a system like the one built in the updated tutorial, Using the ebb n flow screens, and 3/4" tubing and wrapped thread tape around the threads of the bulkheads, Plus used hose clamps to clamp the hoses the the fittings you would find you have a leak tight system that can be moved around a little its fully flexible

And it is light proofed with no worries on light leaks, Or ways to deal with them plus its just so pretty and clean

Aeric thanks and yeah simple but helps improve the seal even though without it they dont leak

Hmm, I forgot about lightproofing the water. Oops, algae galore. That might be the deal breaker.

11-02-2006, 05:18 PM	#121
blazeoneup The Helpful One Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: In my garden! Posts: 1,988	Well thanks for stopping in, Also check back im going to update this tutorial this weekend to come! Going to add the ebb n flow screens to it as well as clamps on the returns! __________________ Perpetual Grow with 2 1k Bloom Rooms! 205w LED vs 400w HID let the battle begin!(Check it out) Recirculating Dwc Tutorial! Blazeoneup hits the dirt! The best dam grow show! 4,000w 64 plants ready set grow! 4,200w 3 rooms rdwc! 3,200w organic soil 2004 Old Harvest Old RDWC GROW Motivation Test Grow Overgrow will live on through it's members. If there's ever anything I can help with,feel free to pm me!
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11-05-2006, 11:04 AM	#122
blazeoneup The Helpful One Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: In my garden! Posts: 1,988	Ok guys i made a few needed changes in the new rebuild, I thought i would share them with you all. I tried to edit it into the tutorial the best i could but i am posting them here as well at the end of the thread 1. I installed ebb n flow screens to help prevent the roots from growing down into the return lines. 2. I used thread tape to insure a good seal on the threads of the ebb n flow fittings. 3. I used hose clamps to clamp the tubing to the fittings to insure 100% leak tight seal. Now for pictures of the upgrades! __________________ Perpetual Grow with 2 1k Bloom Rooms! 205w LED vs 400w HID let the battle begin!(Check it out) Recirculating Dwc Tutorial! Blazeoneup hits the dirt! The best dam grow show! 4,000w 64 plants ready set grow! 4,200w 3 rooms rdwc! 3,200w organic soil 2004 Old Harvest Old RDWC GROW Motivation Test Grow Overgrow will live on through it's members. If there's ever anything I can help with,feel free to pm me!
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11-14-2006, 10:07 PM	#124
blazeoneup The Helpful One Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: In my garden! Posts: 1,988	If i done all that it would take up way to much floor space. I assure you i have 2 systems, a 20 bucket system, and a 16 bucket system running right now, Both systems are leak tight and sealed very well. So no i have not thought of putting them into a tank of any kind, Besides that this system i have is built with no epoxy lol, Or any glues ect for that matter and it is leak tight. __________________ Perpetual Grow with 2 1k Bloom Rooms! 205w LED vs 400w HID let the battle begin!(Check it out) Recirculating Dwc Tutorial! Blazeoneup hits the dirt! The best dam grow show! 4,000w 64 plants ready set grow! 4,200w 3 rooms rdwc! 3,200w organic soil 2004 Old Harvest Old RDWC GROW Motivation Test Grow Overgrow will live on through it's members. If there's ever anything I can help with,feel free to pm me!
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11-24-2006, 02:06 AM	#128
blazeoneup The Helpful One Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: In my garden! Posts: 1,988	Dude if you built a system like the one built in the updated tutorial, Using the ebb n flow screens, and 3/4" tubing and wrapped thread tape around the threads of the bulkheads, Plus used hose clamps to clamp the hoses the the fittings you would find you have a leak tight system that can be moved around a little its fully flexible And it is light proofed with no worries on light leaks, Or ways to deal with them plus its just so pretty and clean Aeric thanks and yeah simple but helps improve the seal even though without it they dont leak __________________ Perpetual Grow with 2 1k Bloom Rooms! 205w LED vs 400w HID let the battle begin!(Check it out) Recirculating Dwc Tutorial! Blazeoneup hits the dirt! The best dam grow show! 4,000w 64 plants ready set grow! 4,200w 3 rooms rdwc! 3,200w organic soil 2004 Old Harvest Old RDWC GROW Motivation Test Grow Overgrow will live on through it's members. If there's ever anything I can help with,feel free to pm me!
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11-24-2006, 07:46 AM	#129
aeric Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2005 Posts: 1,260	yeah I'm definately setting up your system on the next run....hand watering is just getting to be too much of a chore anymore. One thing I don't know if u mentioned...are u still happy with the GPH on the recirc pump? Last edited by aeric; 11-24-2006 at 07:47 AM..
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11-14-2006, 12:17 AM	#123
_Dude Member Join Date: Sep 2006 Posts: 903	Hey Blaze, have you considered scrapping 90% of the plumbing altogether by placing each row in a plywood tank? You might want to add up the plumbing costs and consider it. I'm just at the point of kicking the idea around so bear with me. The upside of this is you eliminate all potential plumbing leaks, all potential root blockage, and you can freely adjust bucket spacing when needed. The downside is it requires a lot more water (and nutes) - I'm trying to figure out the best way to lower the water volume in the tanks. I might just end up using rocks or bricks if I do this. Another possible downside is how to make the tank water tight. If you go with epoxy, you have to use stuff certified for potable water systems, and that stuff is even more expensive than regular epoxy, which is insanely expensive to begin with. I'm thinking I'll just use poly tarps since they're waterproof. I'm sketchy about that since I don't know if they're really waterproof, or just "waterproof." No doubt I'll have to find out before I start. Just an idea.
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11-14-2006, 11:36 PM	#125
Guest Guest Posts: n/a	Kick-ass Blaze, love watching you do your thing. You always give us a killer show and all the kickass DIY stuff. Thanks for sharing all your info and grow with us. Thanks alot, BG
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11-24-2006, 01:43 AM	#127
aeric Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2005 Posts: 1,260	Great additions to the update Blaze. When I saw the pipe tape I was like duuuh...why didn't I think of that b4? Such a simple thing but essential!
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