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Old 05-11-2013, 05:19 PM #1
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Aquaponic grow lab

I built myself a new veg room/grow lab.
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It's roughly 10x10x6'.
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I'm running a 600w digilux mh bulb in an adjustable phantom ballast, and some t5s.
I have a 50 gallon acrylic fish tank with 7 or 8 bluegill, just a few months old.
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The aquarium water drains to a general hydroponics panda reservoir converted into a 2x4' grow bed filled with hydrocorn.
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An auto siphon fills and drains the bed several times an hour into a sump tank, which contains the pump.
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The 800gph pump, which is kinda overkill, pumps the water in the sump up to T above the fish tank. Here, two valves control the flow rate into either the fish tank, or through a heath Robinson inspired high-flow hydroponic cloner loop which aerates the water before returning it to the sump tank.
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The clear tubing and valve are an anti siphon I have attached to another small pump, also in the sump tank, that runs water to c frame nursery sprayers i can stake into vegging plants.
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Old 05-11-2013, 05:28 PM #2
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And here's the first run!
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That's the first bog medley in front, with a bunch of mango crosses I'm working on. On the left, aurora indica x (mandala 1 x (Burmese x bc mango)) on the right is sotf's sweet tooth 4 x aeroguerrillas mango haze piff pheno.
Some day the two will meet and fuck and have amazing delicious hazy mango babies.
MMMmmm.
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Old 05-11-2013, 05:55 PM #3
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That`s some serious DIY plumbin my buddy........Respect......Look s like them bream`s is shittin out what the plants need , so win-win comes to mind......

Good luck....DHF...........
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Old 05-11-2013, 06:05 PM #4
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nice, looks like you got it up and running well
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Old 05-11-2013, 06:14 PM #5
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Thanks DHF & LVK
I lost five or six of the smallest fish in the beginning, one to a not properly protected intake, the rest to the nitrite spike when I was getting it up and cycling. Everything is gravy now, I'm just tying to figure out how to work the fish water into some kind of bucket dwc for the future, the growth is really explosive. I had a couple of runty plants in the grow bed for just a few weeks and i took them out for fear they would overgrow it. Now they have some of the largest fan leaves Ive ever witnessed on an indoor plant.
Slight stall but not too much trouble on the transplant to soil.
Easiest cloning I've ever done too.
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Pretty cool. Nice to see an aqua set up.

I built 1 back in '03 and ran it non-stop 'till '10 without so much as a single rez change/clean up. Mine was RDWC. Pics can be seen in my "old gallery". Details can be found here https://www.icmag.com/ic/showthread.php?threadid=23123

Let me know if I can help. BTW, a little trick to speed up the N cycle in the beginning in to toss a cup of fresh piss in the tank to kick start the BB.
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There are no secrets here, one thing I can tell you is all grows are governed by "Blackmans law of limiting factors" this states that if a chemical process is affected by more than one factor, then its rate will be determined by the factor which has the lowest value.

In growing terms this means if you have perfect lighting, great air exchange perfect room temps, but high root temps, the limiting factor would be root temps which would reduce dissolved oxygen available to the root zone meaning the yield would suffer.

When you look at your grow try and remember "Blackmans law" and identify which part of your grow is the "limiting factor"
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Pretty cool. Nice to see an aqua set up.

I built 1 back in '03 and ran it non-stop 'till '10 without so much as a single rez change/clean up. Mine was RDWC. Pics can be seen in my "old gallery". Details can be found here https://www.icmag.com/ic/showthread.php?threadid=23123

Let me know if I can help. BTW, a little trick to speed up the N cycle in the beginning in to toss a cup of fresh piss in the tank to kick start the BB.
Excellent! Thanks aquagrower, good thread, ill go back and read the rest. I wasn't particularly intending on growing herb in the aquaponic setup, but seeing how it responded in a few test plants has me pretty convinced to investigate further. I think a RDWC could be spectacular, what did you use for flowering supplements? Will guano kill off the micro herd/fish? Maybe a top dressing of dried comfrey and bracken fern would be a better p source? Nice to find someone else into growiing plants with poopy fish water!
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Thanks IM,
Ill take a minute to explain my soil and pots.
I'm using mostly 1 gallon fabric pots from amazon, I'm not sure of the brand, but they have handles and were a good value. I sometimes flower in 5 gallon square root bags, they're great too, and I just picked up some 3 gallon smart pots for everything in between.
I'm 2 years in with my recycled soil, but I'm always topping it up.
It's very roughly 50% promix, 20% ewc, 20% homemade compost, or coast of maine bagged lobster compost, plus some perlite, greensand, neptunes harvest crab shell meal, crushed oyster shell, DE, sun leaves Jamaican and Peruvian guanos, wild harvested amendments like nettle and comfrey and seaweed, and composted chicken manure.
I top dress with more guanos in flower if need be, but otherwise water with fish water or compost teas and fermented plant extracts
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I used to keep a bottle of PBP on hand, but rarely was it really needed. Not real sure on the NPK values of a $.25 feeder goldfish, but that's what I fed the fish. Would go thru $20-25 worth a week with a full system (veg and bloom).

I was always gonna set up a worm farm in order to better control what was going in to the system. Need more K? Feed the worms banannas, then feed the worms to the fish. Never got around to doing it.

My tank was a "show tank" in the living room with the garden in a hidden room in the basement below. When i built it, It was a "2 stage" recirculating system. 1 stage circulating the water thru the grow system and 1 stage to circulate the water between the tank and garden.

Found out pretty quick that I shoulda saved a few bucks and skipped the 2nd stage. Plants used a lot more water than I anticipated in the planning stage. I eneded up putting a float valve in the pump rez and hooked it to the fishtank via a valved line on a syphon. Would turn off the tank pumps, open the valve to fill the grow system, when the water quit dropping re-fill tank, and close the valve.

The grow in the thread linked above was started back at OG and moved here when OG went down. "Guest" (thread starter of aquaponics rocks) was Worbong, another aqua guy from OG too.

The only thing about aqua buds is they take a little longer to mature and the larf is 'larfier", if that makes any sense. I think it's because of too much N late in flower. I did always think that the buds tasted better tho.

For a hobbiest, aquaponic RDWC is a great system. Used to joke with the woman that I build something that you could pour goldfish in one end, and pull high grade weed out of the other end.
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There are no secrets here, one thing I can tell you is all grows are governed by "Blackmans law of limiting factors" this states that if a chemical process is affected by more than one factor, then its rate will be determined by the factor which has the lowest value.

In growing terms this means if you have perfect lighting, great air exchange perfect room temps, but high root temps, the limiting factor would be root temps which would reduce dissolved oxygen available to the root zone meaning the yield would suffer.

When you look at your grow try and remember "Blackmans law" and identify which part of your grow is the "limiting factor"
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