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07-30-2013, 08:59 PM

I'm just grabbing the 50lbs. bag next time. It goes too quickly.

ozzieAI · 08-02-2013, 12:37 AM

sorry guys missed your contributions

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Have you experimented with karanja at all?

unfortunately i am unable to source karanja so will have to stick with neem

i got 20 kgs of neem cake on the way to me now...

happy growing

Gelado` · 08-02-2013, 12:49 AM

I'll be watering in neem oil as a preventative and conditioner--I've definitely seen faster, healthier growth from it outdoors!

Bmac1 · 08-02-2013, 02:07 AM

My little ones will get their first drench with neem tomorrow. First time trying this, never had a problem with pests before but I am a big proponent for prevention so I will give it a go.

canna woop! · 08-02-2013, 07:30 AM

Neem oil as a soil condition, will give it a whorl

canna woop! · 08-04-2013, 03:13 AM

Hi OP and IC users of neem. I thought to update muy experience with this. I have had a 16oz can of neem oil sitting around mostly in the past few months, not wanting to spray it on plants that could activate germination (theoretically). Any way, I am also a bit weary of neem oil having stunted young plants with it before. I also have neem cake that gets topdressed quite often (unlike the oil)

Well, in the past few days I busted out with the oil, after removing a few leaves on which i saw some damage that may indicate had thrip pupa on the bottom side. 1.5 oz chopped aloe vera leaves, & a coffee spoon (smaller than tea) full in to each liter, and gave it a violent whorl, then drenching from the top branches down to the soil.

I also added 2-3 drops of lavender oil from a local farm in, they are not certified organic but what could they possibly need to spray on lavender? So I am aware that lavender contains some compounds that can kill a plant fast, and are not very tasty either. This food grade lavender is great though even tastes good and it was only $12 for a .5 oz vial. Neem works for the plants really well too. less is more

MrFista · 12-20-2013, 08:33 PM

Neem oil may give a perceived benefit where the soil has insect activity that is detrimental to plant vigor - and so the oil is only indirectly beneficial to the plants. As for uptake, perhaps there is a soil microbial component exerting lipase activity on the oil breaking it down into soluble/co-transportable constituents?

johnnybravo · 12-20-2013, 08:43 PM

Nuttin l!ke the flavor of neem in the morning...

Monkdawg840 · 03-15-2014, 02:30 AM

I've been using neem cake in my soil mix, and neem cake as a top dress and azamax as well that I've been foliar using. And I have to say I'm impressed as well. The neem cake conditions soil and will make everything turn white with mold within a cpl days colonizing the media. It really jump starts things and will help with ph lockout and other deficiency symptoms as well growing. It contains nutrients as well and really is a great idea. Using azamax in conjunction will also really assist things if your having problems and if your not then it will keep plants healthy and happy. I haven't tried seeing how much neem a plant can take yet but they do well with the few tbls a plant I top dress every now and again like weekly and with neem oil sprays at 50 ml per gallon

that's pretty heavy IMO, and they love it.

Scottish Research · 03-15-2014, 09:42 PM

I think Neem might work well as a surfectant for your soil mix; allowing the water to fill the mix instead of just running out. It also might help protect your plants. I use a little non perfumed organic dish soap when I prep my soil mix; it works wonders.

I have never found Neem to be effective at all; your probably better off not using it.

But who knows?

RF

07-30-2013, 08:59 PM	#21
Carlos Danger Guest Posts: n/a	I'm just grabbing the 50lbs. bag next time. It goes too quickly.
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08-02-2013, 12:49 AM	#23
Gelado` Senior Member Join Date: May 2013 Posts: 1,289	I'll be watering in neem oil as a preventative and conditioner--I've definitely seen faster, healthier growth from it outdoors! __________________ You may not vote on anymore threads ever again. My Ice Cream Shoppe Ice Cream, Skunk, Satori and Afghani (Current Grow)
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12-20-2013, 08:33 PM	#27
MrFista Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2008 Posts: 1,036	Neem oil may give a perceived benefit where the soil has insect activity that is detrimental to plant vigor - and so the oil is only indirectly beneficial to the plants. As for uptake, perhaps there is a soil microbial component exerting lipase activity on the oil breaking it down into soluble/co-transportable constituents? __________________ I'm in it for the tomatoes. I been growing tomatoes for a long long time. Sometimes I get to thinking I know everything about tomatoes. My tomatoes make me completely delusional.
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03-15-2014, 09:42 PM	#30
Scottish Research Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2011 Location: Highland Piedmont Posts: 2,157	I think Neem might work well as a surfectant for your soil mix; allowing the water to fill the mix instead of just running out. It also might help protect your plants. I use a little non perfumed organic dish soap when I prep my soil mix; it works wonders. I have never found Neem to be effective at all; your probably better off not using it. But who knows? RF __________________ "We're just a weed in the universe" Karl P. "The problem with know it all's, is that they don't know, what they don't know." R.Fortune "Deflect & Redirect. Attack preemptively, if trouble is coming your way." from Goldman Sachs, SOP
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08-02-2013, 02:07 AM	#24
Bmac1 Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Canada Posts: 2,414	My little ones will get their first drench with neem tomorrow. First time trying this, never had a problem with pests before but I am a big proponent for prevention so I will give it a go.
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08-02-2013, 07:30 AM	#25
canna woop! Member Join Date: Nov 2012 Location: Warshinton Posts: 729	Neem oil as a soil condition, will give it a whorl
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08-04-2013, 03:13 AM	#26
canna woop! Member Join Date: Nov 2012 Location: Warshinton Posts: 729	Hi OP and IC users of neem. I thought to update muy experience with this. I have had a 16oz can of neem oil sitting around mostly in the past few months, not wanting to spray it on plants that could activate germination (theoretically). Any way, I am also a bit weary of neem oil having stunted young plants with it before. I also have neem cake that gets topdressed quite often (unlike the oil) Well, in the past few days I busted out with the oil, after removing a few leaves on which i saw some damage that may indicate had thrip pupa on the bottom side. 1.5 oz chopped aloe vera leaves, & a coffee spoon (smaller than tea) full in to each liter, and gave it a violent whorl, then drenching from the top branches down to the soil. I also added 2-3 drops of lavender oil from a local farm in, they are not certified organic but what could they possibly need to spray on lavender? So I am aware that lavender contains some compounds that can kill a plant fast, and are not very tasty either. This food grade lavender is great though even tastes good and it was only $12 for a .5 oz vial. Neem works for the plants really well too. less is more
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12-20-2013, 08:43 PM	#28
johnnybravo Banned Join Date: Dec 2011 Posts: 292	Nuttin l!ke the flavor of neem in the morning...
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03-15-2014, 02:30 AM	#29
Monkdawg840 Member Join Date: Sep 2012 Location: Home Posts: 143	I've been using neem cake in my soil mix, and neem cake as a top dress and azamax as well that I've been foliar using. And I have to say I'm impressed as well. The neem cake conditions soil and will make everything turn white with mold within a cpl days colonizing the media. It really jump starts things and will help with ph lockout and other deficiency symptoms as well growing. It contains nutrients as well and really is a great idea. Using azamax in conjunction will also really assist things if your having problems and if your not then it will keep plants healthy and happy. I haven't tried seeing how much neem a plant can take yet but they do well with the few tbls a plant I top dress every now and again like weekly and with neem oil sprays at 50 ml per gallon that's pretty heavy IMO, and they love it.
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