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Shliite · 02-19-2013, 06:21 AM

I'm wondering, how many people out there are growing in rental properties. I know there is language in my lease that prohibits "illegal grow operations and sales", etc. Now that it's technically not illegal to grow, could I legally grow in my apartment?

Is it reasonable to think that I will ever be able to openly grow in a rental property? I get the feeling that unless i own my own place, i'll still be stuck hiding my operation and the new law really hasn't changed much for me.

monsoon · 02-19-2013, 03:40 PM

Your understanding is correct.

The new law specifically allows all property owners in Colorado the right to prohibit you from growing, possessing, or using marijuana on their property. As a renter, you technically have no rights in this area, "legal" or not....A64 or not.

Time to pony up and buy yer own place or be ready to tear down and move 24/7/365.

Folks thinking of moving here and growing need to be aware of this as well

festivus · 02-19-2013, 05:49 PM

Growing in rentals is tricky, an absentee owner or lazy property manager is helpful. Here they need to give a 48 hour notice prior to entry, but can enter at any time in case of an "emergency", so RE-KEY the locks!

Recently, I had an inspection in a rental that had 80+ plants. I've got a large truck with a tall camper-type shell on the back. Did the middle of the night move and had evertying clean as a whistle the next day. What a pain in the ass! It was touch and go, but I survived and so did the plants.

monsoon · 02-19-2013, 11:40 PM

Every state is different. This is the Colorado forum.

In Colorado, an owner has the right to enter for emergency without notice and must give a 24 hour notice for any other inspection/entry.

In Colorado a tenant can change the locks but they must provide the landlord/owner with a key. If they try to lock the landlord out by changing the locks and fail to provide the landlord a key, the landlord can legally call a locksmith and gain entry without the tenant's permission. From there, not only will the tenant be legally responsible for the charges incurred via the use of the locksmith, such an action initiates a "for cause" termination that is provided to the owner by law and allows the landlord to legally give you a "3 Day Notice" to vacate the premises no matter what the lease may say.

Same thing if they enter and find your garden @ any point. Bam. This gives them a "for cause" right under the law and they can give you a 3 Day Notice with absolutely NO right/protection/recourse via the law/under amendment 64.

Best bet (buy a house)... find a cool landlord and treat them well. Failure to do so will only cause YOU to be out of a place to live.

MPL · 02-20-2013, 05:19 AM

Monsoon speaks the truth.

I've grown in a rental, but it was a very small 400w stealth grow. Even then, it really wasn't all that stealthy. I don't recommend it.

Space Case · 02-20-2013, 05:29 AM

Find a landlord stuck in a bad mortgage with a semi-rundown property somewhere also semi-rural, and help them fix the place up!

MPL · 02-20-2013, 05:53 AM

That's a great idea! If your landlord is ok with you growing that's a whole other ballgame from doing it all clandestine like.

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Originally Posted by Space Case

Find a landlord stuck in a bad mortgage with a semi-rundown property somewhere also semi-rural, and help them fix the place up!

Space Case · 02-20-2013, 05:55 AM

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Originally Posted by MPL

That's a great idea! If your landlord is ok with you growing that's a whole other ballgame from doing it all clandestine like.

Even if he doesn't know you are growing. If you seem like you got it together, pay your rent on time, and are willing to spruce the place up, even if he found out you were growing later, you are already on his good side. Its a recession. Plenty of people with good intentions end up losing jobs and backing out of leases. Just being sharp and on point pays off these days.

festivus · 02-20-2013, 05:26 PM

@ Monsoon- Changing the locks won't sit well with the owner/manager, but it may give a grower just enough time to break down. Have a key ready to give them, say you forgot.

Buying a house isn't an option for a lot of growers. As an owner, I would be worried about forfeiture in case of a bust. At least in a rental, the owner can claim ignorance.

Obviously, the best option is to get their permission. Take precautions to insure the grow doesn't do any damage. As mentioned above, be a good tenant. Keep the place clean, and pay on time.

02-20-2013, 05:41 PM

Ive grown in rentals for over 5 years. Just need to find the right one. Ive passed up many apt while looking because it didnt feel right. I like to find a lazy landlord that doesnt really give a crap about there old house, and they go on vacations for long periods of time every year.
The area/location is a key factor too. Get a feel for the neighborhood when you arive to look at a place. Get there 30 minutes early and just hang out in the car and see whats going on around the street. Get a bad vibe...dont rent it.

02-19-2013, 06:21 AM	#1
Shliite Member Join Date: May 2007 Posts: 122	Growing in rentals I'm wondering, how many people out there are growing in rental properties. I know there is language in my lease that prohibits "illegal grow operations and sales", etc. Now that it's technically not illegal to grow, could I legally grow in my apartment? Is it reasonable to think that I will ever be able to openly grow in a rental property? I get the feeling that unless i own my own place, i'll still be stuck hiding my operation and the new law really hasn't changed much for me.
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02-19-2013, 05:49 PM	#3
festivus STAY TOASTY MY FRIENDS! Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: The Valley Isle Posts: 2,605	Growing in rentals is tricky, an absentee owner or lazy property manager is helpful. Here they need to give a 48 hour notice prior to entry, but can enter at any time in case of an "emergency", so RE-KEY the locks! Recently, I had an inspection in a rental that had 80+ plants. I've got a large truck with a tall camper-type shell on the back. Did the middle of the night move and had evertying clean as a whistle the next day. What a pain in the ass! It was touch and go, but I survived and so did the plants. __________________ Seed Buyers Beware! Don't waste your money on hype. If you have to buy multiple seed packs to find that "keeper", you're getting ripped off. Every female in a pack of seeds should be a keeper! We've been led to believe that lots of variation in a cross is a good thing, because some vendors would rather you buy several packs of their gear, instead of them actually doing the selections to fix that nag champa or golden clit trait themselves. For hobby growers, pheno hunting is fun. But mono-croppers who grow to pay the bills prefer a consistent product that regularly delivers the desired trait package.
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02-19-2013, 11:40 PM	#4
monsoon Member Join Date: Jul 2012 Posts: 397	Every state is different. This is the Colorado forum. In Colorado, an owner has the right to enter for emergency without notice and must give a 24 hour notice for any other inspection/entry. In Colorado a tenant can change the locks but they must provide the landlord/owner with a key. If they try to lock the landlord out by changing the locks and fail to provide the landlord a key, the landlord can legally call a locksmith and gain entry without the tenant's permission. From there, not only will the tenant be legally responsible for the charges incurred via the use of the locksmith, such an action initiates a "for cause" termination that is provided to the owner by law and allows the landlord to legally give you a "3 Day Notice" to vacate the premises no matter what the lease may say. Same thing if they enter and find your garden @ any point. Bam. This gives them a "for cause" right under the law and they can give you a 3 Day Notice with absolutely NO right/protection/recourse via the law/under amendment 64. Best bet (buy a house)... find a cool landlord and treat them well. Failure to do so will only cause YOU to be out of a place to live.
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02-20-2013, 05:26 PM	#9
festivus STAY TOASTY MY FRIENDS! Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: The Valley Isle Posts: 2,605	@ Monsoon- Changing the locks won't sit well with the owner/manager, but it may give a grower just enough time to break down. Have a key ready to give them, say you forgot. Buying a house isn't an option for a lot of growers. As an owner, I would be worried about forfeiture in case of a bust. At least in a rental, the owner can claim ignorance. Obviously, the best option is to get their permission. Take precautions to insure the grow doesn't do any damage. As mentioned above, be a good tenant. Keep the place clean, and pay on time. __________________ Seed Buyers Beware! Don't waste your money on hype. If you have to buy multiple seed packs to find that "keeper", you're getting ripped off. Every female in a pack of seeds should be a keeper! We've been led to believe that lots of variation in a cross is a good thing, because some vendors would rather you buy several packs of their gear, instead of them actually doing the selections to fix that nag champa or golden clit trait themselves. For hobby growers, pheno hunting is fun. But mono-croppers who grow to pay the bills prefer a consistent product that regularly delivers the desired trait package.
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02-20-2013, 05:41 PM	#10
Alone Guest Posts: n/a	Ive grown in rentals for over 5 years. Just need to find the right one. Ive passed up many apt while looking because it didnt feel right. I like to find a lazy landlord that doesnt really give a crap about there old house, and they go on vacations for long periods of time every year. The area/location is a key factor too. Get a feel for the neighborhood when you arive to look at a place. Get there 30 minutes early and just hang out in the car and see whats going on around the street. Get a bad vibe...dont rent it.
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02-19-2013, 03:40 PM	#2
monsoon Member Join Date: Jul 2012 Posts: 397	Your understanding is correct. The new law specifically allows all property owners in Colorado the right to prohibit you from growing, possessing, or using marijuana on their property. As a renter, you technically have no rights in this area, "legal" or not....A64 or not. Time to pony up and buy yer own place or be ready to tear down and move 24/7/365. Folks thinking of moving here and growing need to be aware of this as well
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02-20-2013, 05:19 AM	#5
MPL Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Posts: 791	Monsoon speaks the truth. I've grown in a rental, but it was a very small 400w stealth grow. Even then, it really wasn't all that stealthy. I don't recommend it.
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02-20-2013, 05:29 AM	#6
Space Case Member Join Date: Aug 2010 Posts: 909	Find a landlord stuck in a bad mortgage with a semi-rundown property somewhere also semi-rural, and help them fix the place up!
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