[St3ve]

Originally Posted by BasementGrower

i had same time for dry.. i took them off the stem put into a container that let air in and out slower then just lettin them dry outside on a screen.. iunno i really saw a hugeeeeee difference so im stuck to it....... and dude ya i just pulled down like a 7 pound harvest.. that i will trim . 6 pounds myself

not exactly scientific my man.. I mean, how can you compare the results of the two methods when you aren't even sure of the environmental conditions for both?

The more plant matter that has to dry, the longer it takes. I would challenge you to control the environment of the wet trimmed product to have it dry in the same amount of days its taking you to dry the plant as a whole. If that's a pain for you and you don't want to do it, I understand.
I'm just suggesting that possibly your wet trimmed product dried much faster than the dry trimmed and THAT is the difference you are perceiving... instead of just saying "dry trimming > wet trimming" without really qualifying why. I'm just saying that, because if you read my post on the last page, I went through the same problems for a few harvests till I finally figured it out.

[St3ve]

Originally Posted by festerous

If you take a wet fan leaf and stick it in a quart canning jar, you will not get that hay smell.
If you cut the leaf in half before sticking it in you will get that hay smell almost immediately.

I'm not sure I understand your point. I mean, what does it matter how it smells until its ready?

[festerous]

My point is would be, if you can keep your plant from going into defensive mode you can avoid the fresh cut grass smell all together. When you start cutting into leaves the plant think's it's being eaten by bugs. In defense it creates VOC's that attract friendly predatory insects. That overpowering grassy smell is the plant calling out for help.

[mowood3479]

anecdotal evidence while worth something isnt exactly conclusive... its a pet peeve of mine when people take anecdotal evidence and start boasting about the "proof" they have.
if it works it works... but as dhf says lots ways to skin a mule..
sorry grumpy this morning

[Jellyfish]

Originally Posted by festerous

My point is would be, if you can keep your plant from going into defensive mode you can avoid the fresh cut grass smell all together. When you start cutting into leaves the plant think's it's being eaten by bugs. In defense it creates VOC's that attract friendly predatory insects. That overpowering grassy smell is the plant calling out for help.

hmmm... thinking about this, it sounds right. Anybody back this up or refute it?

[deacon1503]

Originally Posted by Jellyfish

hmmm... thinking about this, it sounds right. Anybody back this up or refute it?

+1

[St3ve]

Originally Posted by Jellyfish

hmmm... thinking about this, it sounds right. Anybody back this up or refute it?

It could be correct, and I do know that I smell more of the hay smell after wet trimming versus dry trimming.

but my point to him was, if I can eliminate the smell completely by proper drying and curing then it really doesn't matter. All I care about is the final product... and for me, its way easier to wet trim. If I can get comparable results then I will pick the easier road every time.

[GIVE LOVE]

Originally Posted by festerous

My point is would be, if you can keep your plant from going into defensive mode you can avoid the fresh cut grass smell all together. When you start cutting into leaves the plant think's it's being eaten by bugs. In defense it creates VOC's that attract friendly predatory insects. That overpowering grassy smell is the plant calling out for help.

+2 would love to see some kind of reference for this, please enlighten us!

[GIVE LOVE]

Well I should have searched before posting...

Interesting stuff:

https://www.plantphysiol.org/content/121/2/325.full
https://www.pnas.org/content/104/13/5467.full
https://www.pnas.org/content/104/13/5257.full

[SmokeyTheBear]

Originally Posted by BasementGrower

hammerhead is right on.. i pull my fan leaves off the last day of lights on... every fan leaf with no trichomes gets yanked.. then 24-48 hours of dark time.. and Cut in the Dark.. under agreen light.. then. put right onto strings to hang dry.. depending on situation.. it takes 5-14 days .. i been getting my dry to take 10-14 days.. and still cure them for 2-4 weeks before selling..

but ya i did the test with horrible wet trimming results.. i am pissed.. the stuff thats in jars that was wet trimmed sucked in the smell department.. and taste was horrible. compared to the dry trimmed. i was very impressed with the results.. and the stuff has been curing for 2 weeks.. the wet trim i cant give away.. the dry trim is gone.. even when i tell them its the same strain.. they think im lieing.

but ya.. i like to pull off all my fans.. before the darktime.. i took some day of the harvest shots.. but i still got another 20-30 ish. to go.. they just started the flush.. so another 2 weeks or so.

im also.. going to say this.. i did a full grow. MH vs HPS. and only am i going to say this.. its all strain dependent.. honestly. i had some do horrible under mh. some did better. but all of the HPS plants did way better then the MH room. so thats enough for me to say no to going full MH.. but next is a mixed spectrum test to see what does beter mixed or just straight hps.

Trim in the dark? That's pointless.